I think our efforts are really working

It seems to me like the anti psychiatry movement may be loosing a battle or two with some harsher laws getting passed violating the rights of people accused of mental illness but I think we are absolutely winning the war so to speak.

I was surfing around looking for a topic using mental health key words and pages explaining our side were coming up and on many pages including news stories about mental health stuff I am noticing the comments where people are writing stuff like "more lies from psych pharma" in so many words. Our ranks are growing.

We are still up against the best marketers money can buy spreading the bull but a person only needs to read the truth about it once to be immune to psych marketing bull forever such as the low serotonin scam.

Anyone else see it this way ?

Copy_Cat wrote:It seems to me like the anti psychiatry movement may be loosing a battle or two with some harsher laws getting passed violating the rights of people accused of mental illness but I think we are absolutely winning the war so to speak.

I was surfing around looking for a topic using mental health key words and pages explaining our side were coming up and on many pages including news stories about mental health stuff I am noticing the comments where people are writing stuff like "more lies from psych pharma" in so many words. Our ranks are growing.

We are still up against the best marketers money can buy spreading the bull but a person only needs to read the truth about it once to be immune to psych marketing bull forever such as the low serotonin scam.

Anyone else see it this way ?

There is no low serotonin scam. At one time Elavil worked very well for me. Then it stopped working. Then nothing that I got the following decades worked until I landed on Effexor. Just because AD's don't work for you, don't think that they don't work for anyone else. If AD's don't work for you, then stay off them; either that or keep looking for one that works(if that's possible). I think that most clinically depressed patients aren't helped by AD's. So, I'm in a minority. sigh...

Roger1234 wrote:There is no low serotonin scam. At one time Elavil worked very well for me.

Having a psychiatric medication work for you is different than the "serotonin scam" that Copy_Cat is talking about. Many people choose to take psychiatric medications because they find them helpful. The scam was that big pharma made up the chemical imbalance theory. It is unknown how these medications actually work, just that they do for some people. This is why there are no tests that one can have to measure the levels of serotonin in the brain to determine if they are experiencing a low serotonin level and how much these medications are increasing their serotonin level. No one is denying that psychiatric medications are helpful to some people. (Well, at least I'm not )

Cheze2 wrote:

Roger1234 wrote:There is no low serotonin scam. At one time Elavil worked very well for me.

Having a psychiatric medication work for you is different than the "serotonin scam" that Copy_Cat is talking about. Many people choose to take psychiatric medications because they find them helpful. The scam was that big pharma made up the chemical imbalance theory. It is unknown how these medications actually work, just that they do for some people. This is why there are no tests that one can have to measure the levels of serotonin in the brain to determine if they are experiencing a low serotonin level and how much these medications are increasing their serotonin level. No one is denying that psychiatric medications are helpful to some people. (Well, at least I'm not )

No scam. These meds are Serotonin reuptake inhibitors, and noripinephrine reuptake inhibitors. At least that's what Effexor does. Most people should not be on them; especially if they find that they don't work. That's what the problem is.

Roger1234 wrote:No scam. These meds are Serotonin reuptake inhibitors, and noripinephrine reuptake inhibitors.

Total scam, but that's alright, I believed it for years too cause I never thought to question it.

Does the fact an Advil tablet got rid of my headache or body aches confirm I have low Advil levels in my body ?

This video explains and the girl in it is hot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIjOZq_AUeE

Other than what's on this website, I've never seen anything that says "psychiatry is bad" or anything like that. I never knew the anti-psych movement existed before I came to this website. Maybe it is growing, I wouldn't know. I'm against forced lock up and forced medication taking (even though I willing take my meds because I feel that they help). I don't go actively looking for this kind of stuff though. I couldn't care less. I'm glad you have something that drives you though. That's always a good thing. just try not to get too obsessed with it though. That's when it becomes unhealthy.

What's unhealthy is being fukked up with brain damage drugs - especially when they hold you down and forcibly inject you.

Parador wrote:What's unhealthy is being fukked up with brain damage drugs - especially when they hold you down and forcibly inject you.

I know,

INVOLUNTARY TREATMENT, an unconstitutional and horrifyingly abused legal process by which-- in the absence of any destructive activity, and on nothing more than the word of a single mental health worker people are stripped of all civil and human rights and imprisoned in a psychiatric facility and abused with no form of recourse whatsoever. A terrifying and destructive ordeal whose only positive effect is to inspire activism against the fraud and abuse of psychiatry.

Copy_Cat wrote:

Roger1234 wrote:No scam. These meds are Serotonin reuptake inhibitors, and noripinephrine reuptake inhibitors.

Total scam, but that's alright, I believed it for years too cause I never thought to question it.

Does the fact an Advil tablet got rid of my headache or body aches confirm I have low Advil levels in my body ?

This video explains and the girl in it is hot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIjOZq_AUeE

I need her body. I need it bad! And the arguments she makes are valid too. The chemical imbalance theory cannot be proven. It is not possible to measure serotonin in the brains of patients without dissecting them.

“A theory that is wrong is considered preferable to admitting our ignorance.” – Elliot Vallenstein, Ph.D.


And from my perspective I don't see anti-psych efforts working very well. People are running to the quacks more now than ever. If I see some state ban involuntary treatment then I will believe progress is being made.

Parador wrote:And from my perspective I don't see anti-psych efforts working very well.

I do, back when that doctor gave me a Zyprexa sample and said "don't worry its safe" this didn't pop up on what ever search I was using.

Today this comes up www.zyprexa-victims.com page 2 results.

That would have saved me from alot of pain.