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I Must Be the Only One That This is True For

Postby jonas » Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:14 am

I am currently on Zyprexa 10mg. I have noticed that when my medication is at a low dose, I am much more disciplined. When I am on a higher dose (i.e. my current dosage), I am not disciplined at all. My medication is "anti-discipline". Does being on this medication, or similar ones - like Risperdal and Abilify - make anyone else undisciplined besides me? That is, has anyone else found, while being on this type of medication, that the higher their medication goes, the less disciplined they become?
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Re: I Must Be the Only One That This is True For

Postby Cheze2 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:41 pm

What do you mean by disciplined? I'm not sure I quite understand.
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Re: I Must Be the Only One That This is True For

Postby jonas » Mon Jun 09, 2014 6:42 pm

By disciplined, I mean disciplining myself to be completely celibate, eating a raw vegan diet, fasting intermittently, etc. I was just wondering if there was anyone else out there that this was true for. I'm sure Christ was totally celibate all his life, and I also know he fasted in the desert for a very long time before beginning his public ministry. I'm not using him as a comparison, but as a partial frame of reference.
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Re: I Must Be the Only One That This is True For

Postby Cheze2 » Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:24 am

Thank you for explaining that. It helps a lot. I don't think that I've focused enough on being disciplined in the way that you mean here to see if it makes a difference or not. Sorry that I couldn't help more.
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Re: I Must Be the Only One That This is True For

Postby highdimensionman » Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:35 pm

I think what your calling discipline is termed executive functioning. What your describing is just yet another mental dysfunction caused by antipsychotics. My experience is not the same with me any level of antipsychotic causes me to have less control over what I eat. I was myself a vegan for a while and I've been trying to will myself back to since I stopped the diet a few years ago. After a while of not being on med when I've had the chance I have managed to easliy slip back into a vegan diet and get on its just I shout a bit sometimes through pressured speech and keep ending up back in hospital before I can fully recover.
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Re: I Must Be the Only One That This is True For

Postby Razael » Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:38 am

yeah I know what you mean...I had self dicipline over my mind now I don't have a mind jut empty, I used to do things like chi-gung now I jut sleep all the time
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Re: I Must Be the Only One That This is True For

Postby Razael » Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:40 am

I think I have a lot to say but hardly have a mind, just because i am stoned occassional thought come up with ideas I want to try to ay but no way of getting to fullfill these ideas, they hit a blank and nothing further, this woud happen if I try to talk about it and gives rise to what the shrinks say is thought disorder, but its from the drugs...same is true for that one and the author might be picking up on the general consensus that shrinks have tht once labeled schizoprhenia any difficultie you have from the drug sis labeled as symptoms and if you read the schizoprhenia forum or most forums, If you know what you are talkingabout it gets rejected as something antipsych, so antipsych must just be talking about the truth a apposed to lies that the psychiaatrist has..

does the auther have a problem with shrinks sying tht thee problems with discipline is just some schizoprhenic thing that the increase in medication might help even though you know its from the antipsyfchotic...thats my delemma ata the moment, they increased my meds and it just made things worse but they don't even know it, they are already making up some fantasy that I have improved witht he increase and go a little lighter on me, I don't bother tlking so it isn't pressured and hard to talk about stuff I used to be able to try to say, so les to say so I seem better....not really about thediscipline thing...its hard to explain how I suffer from antipscyhotic from this perspective, I have noticed thaata I am able to cut back in smoking when off antipscyhotic to about three a day, my guidesand archangel guide me to cut back, its really good, so I think the author will find taht everybody with the dopamine deficiency illness from the antipscyhotic are suffering the same yet trying to make a life for themsleves, some succeed living hallf arsed existance and they think and the pscyhaityrist think its jusst the illness, its everywhere but you get call antipscyho for suggesting that its just the antipsychotic, dont trust the psychiatrsits, it really hard to see people fooled like this.
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Re: I Must Be the Only One That This is True For

Postby sixprime » Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:14 pm

I hear you, Razael. "Anti-psych" is so discredited by the likes of Scientology and Thomas Szazaasss that perfectly valid objections to medications that destroy your body are discounted by association.

Antipsychotics did blunt my self-discipline, which is the only thing that keeps me out of a cage. I have a latent abusive streak -- the ghost of my father -- which I normally keep on a very short chain because I hate this part of me. But when that self-discipline was ground down, I didn't care that I was hurting people, and just let 'er rip.

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Re: I Must Be the Only One That This is True For

Postby JillianB » Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:35 pm

I'm glad I read this thread because my psychiatrist just told me she wants me to start taking abilify, which I'm really wary of. I'm worried about the weight gain, and I'm on Prozac as well and I think that med makes it hard for me to remember basic things (today I forgot the name of my doctor when I called in for a prescription refill!) i don't know if I could handle becoming even more unfocused and scatterbrained!
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