Psychotropic Drugs and Mass Killings

-Riccola- etc... EVERYTHING YOU ARE SAYING AND MORE IS -TRUE-, THAT IS WHY I AM SUGGESTING THIS RADICAL WAY OF TRYING TO FIGHT THIS INJUSTICE.....

KINDNESSTHERAPY wrote:-Riccola- etc... EVERYTHING YOU ARE SAYING AND MORE IS -TRUE-, THAT IS WHY I AM SUGGESTING THIS RADICAL WAY OF TRYING TO FIGHT THIS INJUSTICE.....

Thanks I agree there needs to be a radical top down overhaul, but how to bring that about is unknown to me . The recent tragedies can help in at least creating a system to better help violent people but I somehow having a feeling psychiatry will leverage that opportunity to gain more power over everyone whether violent or not. The irony is that its psychiatrists that have wrecked the system of insurance coverage/state coverage. In the past anyone that had good insurance was milked to the maximum, because it was them who brought in the money for hospitals and psychiatrist. Over the years the insurance companies have caught on and just stopped funding treatment. That helped in the end since patients who did not need such extensive treatment where freed from abuse, but those who are dangerous or really do need it today are not getting any help.


Because psychiatrists have milked the system so hard, stories of abuse getting out and the like inpatient is no longer the cash cow it once was. The chronically ill patients are now ending up in prisons or homeless and those who are suicidal just get the rapid re-stabilization model short stay. Although with the amount of abuse rampant in mental hospitals a lot of these people are better off being anywhere but there. But that aside the new cash cow is now child outpatient with ADHD psychotropics, where the goal is the mass selling of ADHD, ADD, ODD. But thats another story


More than anything elese sweeping laws will at least put them on the right track. But truth is I dont know what to do.

-Riccola- etc... YOU are very insightful concerning mental illness, just to add to YOUR knowledge, the following:. I spent over 5 Years of my time and thousands of dollars of my own money to contact mental health professionals etc. worldwide to interest them in a method that might help and or cure mental illness etc. etc. etc.... Not one supposed mental health supposed professional and or mental health organization were interested.....

KINDNESSTHERAPY wrote:-Riccola- etc... YOU are very insightful concerning mental illness, just to add to YOUR knowledge, the following:. I spent over 5 Years of my time and thousands of dollars of my own money to contact mental health professionals etc. worldwide to interest them in a method that might help and or cure mental illness etc. etc. etc.... Not one supposed mental health supposed professional and or mental health organization were interested.....

Id venture to say that no one was interested because your model want profitable. Profit governs main stream mental health. Ive read a bit of your blogs and your are knowledgeable. You certainly aren't naive nor drinking kool-aid for that matter.


Do you have any links or can you describe your idea? I am more than interested!!

Also I think you for your help!

-Riccola- etc... I have given up in trying to convince the mental health industry and or human beings with mental illness etc. etc. etc.... That being said YOUR posts are very insightful and because of this, I will try to explain my years of research and observations one more time...

Throughout history man and or women has done feats of super human strength and or cured themselves of incurable diseases etc... We have the ability to use our bodies to heal ourselves of mental disorders etc. and various diseases, by using -FEEL GOOD CHEMICALS- produced by our bodies...

If we use these feel good chemicals on a -FULL TIME BASES- over a long period of time, YOU will start to see results that would be considered a -MIRACLE-.... Years of observations and research have to be looked at to prove that this idea works...

We the support staff did a program of -Kindness- that made the lives of the clients bearable and we saw results that were miraculous and we used only about 10% of their time. No more suicides in over two years (Active and or Violent), almost no violent behavior and or acting out. Using less dosage of anti psychotic drugs and a more peaceful home life for many of the clients. More stable work habits in the work place and a more peaceful environment for everybody...

We also saw cancer and or diabetes and other disorders go into remission, many of the clients and support staff saw these results and brought them to the supposed professionals, who were not interested and or just did not care etc. etc. etc...

Feel Good Chemicals happen about 2% of the time in a persons life, we got it up to maybe 10% of the clients lives. What might happen if we could get it up to 20% of a persons life by using -Kindness- etc. etc. etc... Feel Good Chemicals such as, Serotonin, Dopamine, Endorphins, etc. etc. etc., Laughter, Kindness, Happiness, Joy, Good Deeds, Generosity, Volunteer, Elation, Smiling, Love, Sex, etc. etc. etc....

"If everyone did speak out against dangerous anti depressants or anything that wasn't right about psychiatry, politicians, news organizations and the like would publicize it. The psychiatric industry would be forced to change to keep making revenue."

If they took anti depressants off of the market it would be horrible for me. Anti depressants work for a minority of depressed patients. If they don't work for a certain patient, then that person should not stay on them.

KINDNESSTHERAPY wrote:-Riccola- etc... I have given up in trying to convince the mental health industry and or human beings with mental illness etc. etc. etc.... That being said YOUR posts are very insightful and because of this, I will try to explain my years of research and observations one more time...

Throughout history man and or women has done feats of super human strength and or cured themselves of incurable diseases etc... We have the ability to use our bodies to heal ourselves of mental disorders etc. and various diseases, by using -FEEL GOOD CHEMICALS- produced by our bodies...

If we use these feel good chemicals on a -FULL TIME BASES- over a long period of time, YOU will start to see results that would be considered a -MIRACLE-.... Years of observations and research have to be looked at to prove that this idea works...

We the support staff did a program of -Kindness- that made the lives of the clients bearable and we saw results that were miraculous and we used only about 10% of their time. No more suicides in over two years (Active and or Violent), almost no violent behavior and or acting out. Using less dosage of anti psychotic drugs and a more peaceful home life for many of the clients. More stable work habits in the work place and a more peaceful environment for everybody...

We also saw cancer and or diabetes and other disorders go into remission, many of the clients and support staff saw these results and brought them to the supposed professionals, who were not interested and or just did not care etc. etc. etc...

Feel Good Chemicals happen about 2% of the time in a persons life, we got it up to maybe 10% of the clients lives. What might happen if we could get it up to 20% of a persons life by using -Kindness- etc. etc. etc... Feel Good Chemicals such as, Serotonin, Dopamine, Endorphins, etc. etc. etc., Laughter, Kindness, Happiness, Joy, Good Deeds, Generosity, Volunteer, Elation, Smiling, Love, Sex, etc. etc. etc....

Your method is what psychiatry is missin. Respect is what heals. Mental illness melts away with empathy, or in the very lest, becomes easier to manage. I would also add constructive methods of expression along with teaching restorative skills. All good therapy has at east 3 elements from my experience: Respect, creative expression , and teaching cognitive skills. If say a person has explosive outburst, rather than punishing that person, a restorative approach is to teach them coping mechanisms they might be missing in the first place. Rehabilitation over punishment are what stop recidivism. Current institutions are rigged to disrespect, bypassing any intimate need a patient my need. If the patient never heals revenue keeps coming. Short falls, suicides, violence or what ever else takes place is just blamed on the illness that got them hospitalized in the first place. Institutions do the opposite of what has been proven to work because its free cash for them.

Roger1234 wrote:"If everyone did speak out against dangerous anti depressants or anything that wasn't right about psychiatry, politicians, news organizations and the like would publicize it. The psychiatric industry would be forced to change to keep making revenue."

If they took anti depressants off of the market it would be horrible for me. Anti depressants work for a minority of depressed patients. If they don't work for a certain patient, then that person should not stay on them.

That's not possible. They force drugs on some people. You can't simply stay off them. That is my major problem with the mental health field. People like you are being selfish and that is part of the problem

That's not possible. They force drugs on some people. You can't simply stay off them. That is my major problem with the mental health field. People like you are being selfish and that is part of the problem[/quote]

How am I being selfish? I just don't want anti depressants taken off the market because they help me. If you have a problem with dope being pushed on you, then deal with that problem in a non selfish way.
Don't try and make all drugs and people who are helped by them to be false and selfish.

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