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Re: Lost it with Anti-psych philosophies

Postby Razael » Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:28 am

I got really bad ass about this $#%^ in hospitla with ines like "thats just your opinion" "you're going around in circles" when they think they already heard it and the point is they disagree it goes on....guess what I think its either the psychaitrist domination over my written word by I suspected that the email on my file had been edited I got a copy it didn't include all the juicy details and they doubled up on the last email, something wierd happened when checking the original on leave but I got in trouble for allegations that they edited when I read it it was totally differedn, especially they edited when I talk about the archangels killing the psychiatrist and saying they are staying purgatory when I made it clear they are staying in hell....Mental health tribunal were decieved by them I made a correction to the report with them seeing what they want to see appealing the decision to VCAT but they couldn't handly me stripping them of their expert status, I won that hearaing but didn't matter what anybody said they were fu ked up thinking because I know the truth about psychaitry and shti they say its just my opinion and means I am schioprhenic its just $#%^, the legal system rely on pscyhaitrist to be experts so it doesn't even matter what I say expsing their lies and $#%^ their opinion coujnts, I wanna take them down #####& I am gonna get them they haven't fixed me up with two oths in hostpaital got in trouble with the beurocrats reporting I am suiidal and $#%^ because I was revealing about them editing this email and $#%^ saying when I was home it was $#%^ and just wanted to sleep forever, not suicide just sleep anyway...then the dodgy ######6 head nurse clamed the office of chief pscyhaitrist claimed I would suicid eif let off section what a load of $#%^, they really ######6 pissedme off and blew a fuse with that dikhead wanker saying he could claim a million and one things when I complainting about how I am treated over reporting an attemtpetd murder from 2003 when I was hung in a noose...I wanna kill these ######6 grandeur deludded hell bound freaks so god help me
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Re: Lost it with Anti-psych philosophies

Postby Razael » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:48 pm

probably made a mistake publishin this complaint email, even though it had been edited did I sY, None of the stuff I talk about was on my file, but it was edited really cleverryly I found out after reading the original after reading whats on my file and the original is much jusier....sorry it mentions secrets that shouldn't be degraded like the double that pretended to be my lover for dealing with rapists and $#%^, now there is heaps of people hosding her back, the intent of the psychaitrists to ###$ with it......so as I saying they edited the complaint letter and put two of the last email on the screen and didn't include the first few, I mean what I sent last in the list, but I complained that it had been edited so they switched them on my file and included one extra email but not all them...they said this was thought disordered, maybe the original is hard to read it was fueled by the gods and must be a bit mysterious, I know something weird happedned when I reading the original another email appeared at the end but now its not their...soemthign weird going on, the psychiatrist are ###$ for trying to take away the double so rapists and unmentionables have there wasy with my wife...they emposered the nightweish unmentionable even though I dealt with him as voluntary patient, it was terrible absolutely horrible last night with him putting decorations on her and trying to capture her, really bad news indeed but we had god of the gods and maat and heaps of beings the emancedorph that I met as voluntary patient they are huge and hard to beat...dealing with one invincible #####& of a psychaitrist that was really bad news hard to deal with and defeat, until we brought him to the clinic and seemed to beat him, the archangels tried to kill him....oh yeah and the MHT mental health tribbunal is really set on destroying me too ut trying to get off CTO but they are corrupt and trying to say all the $#%^ they put me through is delusions!! can you believe that they torment me and try to say its delusions, ###$ them
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Re: Lost it with Anti-psych philosophies

Postby Cruxx » Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:11 am

Hi Razael,

I agree with Riccola's assessment.
That "psychiatrist" openly humiliated you.
unProfessional, and nasty with it.
A rotten person, something their medical education has no answer to.

You are correct, to think that some things should be kept from our enemies.
I call such people enemies, because they injure your trust in yourself.
Better alone, than with violent ideologues that humiliate.

Natural to talk about what is going on for you.
Checking, comparing with others - "Is this happening for you ?"
Everybody does that, a way of checking how we are going.

The difficulty comes when your perceptions do not match the beliefs of the ones you share with.
That is when dumb people make assumptions about hallucination.

Although we are all in a brotherhood, most people cannot be generous enough to be a friend.
Times are hard for the folk who don't need drugs to make them Dull.
They lack the courage to open to the universe, but pretend their cowardice is "sanity".

Your honesty mixes badly with the dishonesty of dull persons.
When nobody can take us at face value, it is our Self that we must learn to trust.

Not blind trust, but trusting you will find what you need to know for the next step in Understanding.
Trust that you will not give up on what is real,
not to give up on building the skills that transform the body – ascending you called it.

So, most people cannot be trusted with your story,
because they are enemies of your self-reliance.

Same is true of spirits, but. Sad, but true.
Spirit friends are the best, they are interesting - but there are cheaters that pretend friendship.
Do not tolerate deception – small lies are clues to Big Lies.

Being a spirit is not a guarantee of good character, of wisdom and generosity.
Choose your friends with care, because a false friend can really hurt.

Self-reliance, truthfulness, and self-trust are part of your spiritual “Immune System”.
So take care of your spiritual immune system while you are adventuring in the Universe.

Best Regards, the Cruxx.
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Re: Lost it with Anti-psych philosophies

Postby Riccola » Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:32 pm

A rotten person, something their medical education has no answer to.

You are correct, to think that some things should be kept from our enemies.
I call such people enemies, because they injure your trust in yourself.
Better alone, than with violent ideologues that humiliate.





Well said! Poor psychiatrists are enemies considering the harm they can do to person. Psychiatrists only know enough to get someone injured. I liken psychiatrists to hiring an unqualified, unlicensed handy man to do all your plumbing or wiring. They might have tools while knowing just enough to get something that appears to be working, yet still devoid of enough understanding to flood or burn down your home.


The difficulty comes when your perceptions do not match the beliefs of the ones you share with.
That is when dumb people make assumptions about hallucination.



This is where I have had the most problems and why so many people aren't being heard. Anything and everything a psychiatrist can not grasp is labelled as a delusion or manifesting from an illness. And its not like they can grasp much to start with. This is highly toxic burying the patient deeper into a hole they cant get out of. Psychiatrists make no effort to research what they do not understand, no effort to admit "this is over my head" or perhaps "I my education has not taught me everything". Condemnation without investigation is said to be the highest forum of ignorance. Using on self as a litmus for every other human being in the world is the root of all evil imo.
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Re: Lost it with Anti-psych philosophies

Postby Cledwyn Bulbs » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:18 pm

Believers in the psychiatric faith are just naive realists. The best way to counter their accusations that you are delusional is just to get all philosophical with them.

First off, point out that no person is free from delusional thought. Everyone deludes themselves sometimes. People are only as receptive to the truth as the truth is as receptive to their interests and desires. Indeed, such is the horrible reality of human existence, it can probably be said that man is necessarily delusional, because the truth is sometimes so unbearable it's incompatible with life.

If they say you are detached from reality, just inquire as to whose reality they are referring. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a complete social constructionist who believes that there is no reality independent of our constructions, nor am I a complete epistemological sceptic who believes it impossible to know anything about reality, but ultimately, reality seems different to different people. There is an epistemological theory known as perspectivism based on this simple fact.

Nevertheless, as I've already said, such people are naive realists. Now, this is a concept that encompasses a number of different disciplines, but in psychology it refers to the belief, common amongst simple-minded people and people generally of a primitive cast of mind, that a person perceives reality as it actually is, unmediated by their mental and sensory apparatus.

Anyone of a more philosophical cast of mind understands that this is nonsense, yet the belief is common amongst the mental health faithful. For example, one of the shibboleths that identifies a believer in this secular faith is that some people are attached to reality and some not, and of course, on this basis the discrimination of the individual who is assigned to the latter category is exercised.

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Re: Lost it with Anti-psych philosophies

Postby Cledwyn Bulbs » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:31 pm

Gustave Flaubert once said; "things come to you only through the intermediary of your mind. Like a concave mirror, it distorts what it reflects."

The belief that delusions only happen to some people, and are therefore not a part of our shared humanity, is, ironically, a delusion, and one that lays the groundwork for many others, because delusions are like evil; they thrive on a lack of insight.

-- Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:35 pm --

Cledwyn Bulbs wrote:Believers in the psychiatric faith are just naive realists. The best way to counter their accusations that you are delusional is just to get all philosophical with them.

First off, point out that no person is free from delusional thought. Everyone deludes themselves sometimes. People are only as receptive to the truth as the truth is as receptive to their interests and desires. Indeed, such is the horrible reality of human existence, it can probably be said that man is necessarily delusional, because the truth is sometimes so unbearable, it's incompatible with life.

If they say you are detached from reality, just inquire as to whose reality they are referring. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a complete social constructionist who believes that there is no reality independent of our constructions, nor am I a complete epistemological sceptic who believes it impossible to know anything about reality, but ultimately, reality seems different to different people. There is an epistemological theory known as perspectivism based on this simple fact.

Nevertheless, as I've already said, such people are naive realists. Now, this is a concept that encompasses a number of different disciplines, but in psychology it refers to the belief, common amongst simple-minded people and people generally of a primitive cast of mind, that a person perceives reality as it actually is, unmediated by their mental and sensory apparatus.

Anyone of a more philosophical cast of mind understands that this is nonsense, yet the belief is common amongst the mental health faithful. For example, one of the shibboleths that identifies a believer in this secular faith is that some people are attached to reality and some not, and of course, on this basis the discrimination of the individual who is assigned to the latter category is exercised.

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Re: Lost it with Anti-psych philosophies

Postby Cledwyn Bulbs » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:43 pm

People have a nasty tendency to measure the sanity of others according to the measure of correspondence between their beliefs and their own. Where a lack of correspondence is found, the presumption of madness is common.
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Re: Lost it with Anti-psych philosophies

Postby Riccola » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:05 pm

Cledwyn Bulbs wrote:People have a nasty tendency to measure the sanity of others according to the measure of correspondence between their beliefs and their own. Where a lack of correspondence is found, the presumption of madness is common.



I think this sums up Psychiatry. :(
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Re: Lost it with Anti-psych philosophies

Postby twistednerve » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:18 pm

I can't understand why some psych' people behave the way they do.

It's just.. uncalled for and there are no reasons to. It's as if they enjoy being azzzholes.

Even with all the difficulties managing psychotic, manic, suicidal or psychopathic people, they respond with such azzholiness and agression to such trivial things. If they're fed up with dealing with people - and mentally ill people on top of that -, why become a psychiatrist? Psychiatrists and psychologists feel like adults who got molested by a kid in a clown costume at a bday party during childhood, became a troubled individual, and grew up to be a clown who entertains kid's birthday parties.

^ this analogy might seem ridiculous and stupid, but honestly it resonates perfectly to many psychiatrists i've witnessed.

For example: the ammount of gay and personality disordered psychiatrists there are. Not that this is inherently bad, but it deviates from "normalcy". And no offense to most people on psychforums, but people who are from segregated groups or have mental issues are usually.. problematic. Of course it will rub off on others.

All in all: if you're a narc bastard, don't go to a profession that requires a lot of professionalism and saintly empathy.
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Re: Lost it with Anti-psych philosophies

Postby Razael » Thu May 21, 2015 4:12 am

man its been a while, I am doing alright but I got a lot to fill in...you probably know 19december my family wanted me treated involuntarily for cahasing the bank account my auntee robbed me of and set me up schizoprehnic, and yeah I just got into the metnal health act and they can't say you are metnally ill for being treated in the past...I got so much to talk about so I got out after two months dealing with the worst possible case manager they could find that I found astrally wouldn't ###$ off from trying to destroy my astral lover and the whole of peninsual health was in on it doing the dirty work for *mod edit* the psychaitrist that initially I needed to ###$ of from distressing my astral lover, she doesn't deserve this $#%^, so needed them to ###$ off and left them abusive emails and they been stalking my facebook and wanted me in hostal to protect the interests of psychaitrsits reputation and plus I chronically distressed her, so why she wasn't in pscyh ward I dunno b workd they protect pedophiles abusers and villians and torture the victims, so ###$ her anyway...oh yeah I refused the injection they ended up putting me on this hostpal admission and they put me back in hostal...by the way all the work i had done to lay off rapists and $#%^ was a aste of time after these hostal admissions and the psychiatrists helped them out to ###$ with my sittuation, so went back to frankston hostal for about 2or 3weeks before they transferred me to an extended care unit, a psych ard and they were trying to get money out of me to live there and really distressing me that I thought I was gonna lose my place to live and yeah like everyone else there they lose their a you live there and have to pay rent kind of thing and lose house and get homeless nd have to stay untill something comes up, not good at all, yeah some people usually there for a couple of years even...they thought I was psychotic, I talked fast but it woas good seperating from penisnual health and they had computers to do treasearch on my religioous achievements etc...so I got out by the way of MHT mental health tribunal who was eralier claiming I was stalking them for leaving a heap of voicemail abuse for them for letting me go through this, so at the haering I had to appologise but they still think I am mentally ill and need to be on CTO....now penisnual health anna help me out but have upcomi they are trying to get me to cancellunderstanding and getting on top of the metnal health act section on what defines a metnal illness, I don't have one plus I might finally e getting the point accross that I had flashbacks and life review and rememberes all the slices with death before previous admissions like attempte dmurder by hanging and a car accident we narrowly missed head on collission with a truck that cut off called a family hitting the truck behind us, so asked for that to e put on the official records and they are obliging just don't want me to see the tribunal and get me off CTO in another way...
especially I have a right to have sexual preferences with astral beings...but thing is the psychaitrist try to torment and destroy her, they fouund out some details taht I should never have revealed that keep her safe, they set up rapists an dshit...but thing is I also had relationship with egyptian goddess first Ma'at in 2012 we made offspring but it wasn't sexual but anyway more recently when a voluntary patient and having sex drve some people got me into isis and she made love to me and we made offspring more offspring with goddess Ma'at and then most recently nephthys that is trying to protect my lover, spring and made some really good ones so a boy and a girl offspring made something happen and brought all the earths population of spcyaitrsits and people that make psychaitry what it is up to make a head ornamietn for me like what the gods wear!!! lol so I am god but because I have psychaitrists and peninsula health following my facebook they tried to ###$ it up and claim my earthling lover that I have a futre with just she is not ready for a call to me....so the offspring are awesome felt sorry for the god we made in 2012 wanted to help but made a mess last night, I feel sorry for him he just wanted to help out but we had it sorted then all sorts of drama's with the pscyahitrists honing in on my astral earthling lover...it was really tricky with pscyhaitrist trying to take over my metnal state to make it all into delusions, my strong hold on pscyahitry and being a god and all, so they managed to get on top of me and bigger then the goddess'saowe wd e did it but it was all about destroying my earthling astral lover, if you knew all the details she doesn't desrerve this, infact shoudl I say she not old enough, but I haven't taken away any of her innocence but they want to see her raped and try to get me into the scene where they made these people think they wouldn't get in any torouble...shouldn't metnaion it, think its dealt with this morning....I hope so anyais special and when she is old enough like when she appeared to me old enough to have sex and we had sex and she got into it and t if things didn't work out, some higher beings made it so its alright but just I put her through a lot...I was gonna say when she is old enough she will ear a head ornament too and be a goddess, I done some magic transformation on her but the psychaitrist can't handle it and ar e jealous or something and want to steal her gifts....they will suffer the consequesnces..

worried about these visions of the people the psychaitrist got to rape her, I shoudln't metnion it, don't warry about it...problem is penisnual health had taken over and a shapeshifter taht was stepping in when she was in danger doesn't work more and more species of them treid to come to earth last night but they done something and they can't come help the girl out...so I know they intend to distress me to prove I am schizoprehnic, they are convinced she is just a delusion so I will share now katy perry song and trying to promote the fact that my astral lovers are onto it, and they are real....Katy perry Legendary Lovers https://youtu.be/zBwXi6V6arM because I had astral love affair with Katy perry seroiusly

so since talking about the head apparatus they tried to make it so I wouldn't be stable when wearing it, it was a nightmare last night, there have been like egytian pictures of me and like these demon gods that devour and destroy anyone who gets in the way but of course the psycahitrsit wnanna distort reality and come out on top and treid to make a mess of it...yeah I was saying that its all been recorded myself and the demon gods, I mean pictures of us sometwhere in the universe, I really have achieved this, just gotta figure out a way to be able to wear my head ornament now without people rform peninsual health or whoever they are trying to make sure I can't....its a nightmare.....I think the girl is safe too lucky because it was heellish last night with spcyhaitrist thinking they n't be annihilated if they manage to get her raped, as if that will get them out of troule its really disgusting that they were trying to will me to accept what is happening and enujoy wantiching her raped and molested and $#%^, theay are all going down...maybe I shoudln't be talking about it...poor girl she doesn't deserve any of this $#%^, and poor goddess's could handle the psychaitrist and people that the psychaitrist had made invincible and more powerful then god even...soemthing wrong but its my fault for being at war with them

wahat my vision was is that I would initiate a death of all those in question and whether the universe would allow them to have a reirth and become shameans capable of healing, but they just got more powerfull part of their self pereservation skill in denial of the gods wrath and defeated it all, not sure where it stands now but as long as my girlfreind wife I should shay is safe, she is destined to be something amazing and a goddess, she hates pscyhaitry from experience with the ######6 bitches


I realised this so pass it on...psychatry is no better then pedophilia, even though my wife is underage i haven't taken her innocence and as a god ant to do something about child protection accross the rely on abuse in childhood to give them something to do to continue the abuse when this causes problems in life, so they promote pedophilia and want to destroy and make into delsuions and remain supreme over planet earth for the work I am doing for child protection to empower the children to fight off their a and become empowerd kind of thing and wipe out any need for pscyahitrists in the world because nogody will have history of abuse during childhood empowered little ones that remain empowered through life and our destiny on earth depends on my work with this, but psychaitry what pendophilia to run rampand and they actually got pedophiles out of trouble and made them invicnble to my wrying to rape my lover, poor girl but she is alright now.....the work I had done I sore it happeneing recently with children I crossed, just they fancy me and want to keep me untill they are old enough, its funny, doenst make me a pedophile because little girls know i am on their side and my astral lover is underage, think about what the psychaitrist are trying to prove to make rhe a statistic y distressing her, its not good enough it was malast night, usually when I delaing with kind of thing it deosnt phase me but the psychaitryst domination of my situation really ticked me off last night, and yeah they say and excuse their behaviour by trying to convice the gods dishing out punnishment and wrath that "but he is schit" they cant even say schizoprehnic onthe astral ane andd time about htis they go "schit zo wah wah" "$#%^ zophhhh free" ###$ off bitches they are really annoying...sorry to let you know my astral lover from earth is underage, but she is good because she doesn't have any fear and stuff like when I manifest for her and she returens the favour somehow like apperaing when I am in light sleep, well she used to when I was a voluntary patient things were really good.....

hope no one is curois to see my lover, because nearly all men find her so attractive that they want to steal her away from me :( she is a delight, and yeah because she is underage I suppose its not fair on the rest of the men that a child wouldn't wanna make theri partner, its a rare gift I have, but worried it make me sound like a pedophile, I am not I asnna do something about it, because its like they are running rampand if its anything to go by any man who comes into my astral situation ants to have his way with my wife because she is the way she is, or steal her light and gifts its really disgusting and of course the psychaitrist are looking on in delight at all the problems I am having, actually they set it all up for men to come in and try to steal her from me, they want me to get into it and give away my poer...yeah I said already after annihilating the pasyhciatrist and taking them up to make a head ornamatne they thought they get out of trouble by empowering child rapists to have their way with her, as if that is gonna get them out of trouble, doens't that just sound really stufppid? ###$ them what are they truing to proove??? dim $#%^ doomed #####& hell bound scum...actually we set it all up for them when they die they ill be annihilated by the gods, they think they have some kind of manufactured afterlife...actually because of them we find that the psychaitrist just might have to create the univers around themselves in such denial of our creators etc ###$ them shits...I am figureing it out even though they just say I incorporate them into my delsuiosn, but I am figureing this stuff out about how they promote pedophilia and abuse of minors to give them something to do when they developm metnal health issuera later in life, it gives them something to do so tits like some disgusting network and utter betrayal of the very laws of the universe, they think the are supreme over gods plan for humanity, my plan....actually most propel at the thought I as jesus, a girl wheo getting ECT said I am representiataive of the lord jesus christ and another claimed am just a smidge below jehova, intersting now I know I am a god but the psyce me think tis deludsions to ruin everythign so they can remain supreme, thats what is going on, sorry I making things difficult actually making them more powerfull and not getting through to them that they are doomed...we nned more to commit suicide for this to relly work, ###$ yeah ###$ the pscyahitrsits all go and neck yourslefs, its karma as I know when and before I had astral representation of *mod edit* she would make me feel suicidal the bitch but now we got that sorted and she the one that gonna end up slashing her wrist like she filled me mewith thoughts about it.
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