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Bundy ranch standoff anti-authoritarians

Postby Copy_Cat » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:35 pm

The first thing you see on the drive to Cliven Bundy’s ranch are the American flags — tied to roadside guardrails, flapping in a hard desert wind.

At a bend in state Route 170 sits the so-called Patriot Checkpoint, evidence of the tense power play raging between the rebellious 67-year-old cattleman and the federal government.

Then there are the guns. Scores of grim citizen militiamen in combat fatigues — semiautomatic weapons slung over their shoulders, ammunition magazines at their belts — patrol from a base they call Camp Tripwire.

Read more : http://darkroom.baltimoresun.com/2014/0 ... n-guard/#1

What these people don't seem to know is that psychiatry is one of the worst enemies of freedom in existence, and its everywhere, it's in our schools labeling and drugging our kids, making moves to invade our churches with things like the "Interfaith Network on Mental Illness" http://www.inmi.us/aboutINMI.html we have "mental health courts" it's on television with fraudsters Dr. Pinsky—who gained fame as "Dr. Drew" during years co-hosting a popular radio sex-advice show "Loveline"—received payments from Glaxo totaling $275,000 for "services for Wellbutrin." http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 ... 2006855076


Psychiatry: "This person behaves/believes in things we don't believe in or approve of, this person is diseased,We know how everything works and what is what, if you disagree with psychiatry you too are diseased "lack insight" and have no right to your own body, life, or beliefs. My way of life is the superior and correct one, yours is wrong and a mythical result of disease, I have a right to take control of your life, detain you, force drugs on you, and keep you locked up as long as I want"

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Here is what I am trying to express, psychiatry is there helping to make people like sheep with the fraudulent "everything bad you feel is a brain disease" Behavoir thoughts we dont like "a brain disease" you are broken... You need medication and fixing.

Paste and a link below to hopefully express what I am getting at,

Bruce Levine, Ph.D.

February 26, 2012

(Note: Read Bruce Levine’s latest post: Anti-Authoritarians and Schizophrenia: Do Rebels Who Defy Treatment Do Better?

In my career as a psychologist, I have talked with hundreds of people previously diagnosed by other professionals with oppositional defiant disorder, attention deficit hyperactive disorder, anxiety disorder and other psychiatric illnesses, and I am struck by (1) how many of those diagnosed are essentially anti-authoritarians, and (2) how those professionals who have diagnosed them are not.

Anti-authoritarians question whether an authority is a legitimate one before taking that authority seriously. Evaluating the legitimacy of authorities includes assessing whether or not authorities actually know what they are talking about, are honest, and care about those people who are respecting their authority. And when anti-authoritarians assess an authority to be illegitimate, they challenge and resist that authority—sometimes aggressively and sometimes passive-aggressively, sometimes wisely and sometimes not.

Some activists lament how few anti-authoritarians there appear to be in the United States. One reason could be that many natural anti-authoritarians are now psychopathologized and medicated before they achieve political consciousness of society’s most oppressive authorities.

http://www.madinamerica.com/2012/02/why-anti-authoritarians-are-diagnosed-as-mentally-ill/


As far as the Bundy Ranch standoff CNN is already broadcasting "Racism" in between ads for psychiatric drugs and opinions of drug company sell out "Dr Drew". Message: Anti-authoritarians = racism ect ect.

CNN the pharma ad channel: Ask your doctor if everything you feel/think is a brain disease.

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Re: Bundy ranch standoff anti-authoritarians

Postby P0ci » Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:38 am

lol Dr Drew I remember that show on MTV with Adam Corolla

Btw concerning the ranch incident, don't really want to get into politics. But to me it seems like a bunch of ultra right wing militias. I wouldn't necesarilly call them anti authoritarian or any of the other doomsday preppers and NWO tinfoil hat geniuses.

Where were they all 10 years ago when Bush was in office? You didn't see them complaining, all they do is whine about 0bama. They are hypocrits.

If anything is anti authoritarian are anarchists, not "patriots" with the American flag carrying assault rifles.
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Postby Cheze2 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:50 am

this is a very ...interesting spin you have put on this very political issue that has nothing to do with mental health-lol
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Postby Copy_Cat » Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:07 am

Cheze2 wrote:this is a very ...interesting spin you have put on this very political issue that has nothing to do with mental health-lol


I guess so but psychiatry is the worst violator of human rights I know of and people ARE protesting it.
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Postby Copy_Cat » Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:01 pm

P0ci wrote:
Where were they all 10 years ago when Bush was in office? .


Where ever they were they were not being coerced to buy health insurance and give money to the big pharma child drugging industry.

Obama: "I will provide health insurance for all Americans by coercing everyone to buy it want it or not"

Obama represents the "nanny state" that acts just like psychiatry "we know whats best for you" and lies alot.

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Postby 1013 victim » Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:17 pm

There is nothing good about that guy and what he represents. That guy expressed a very ignorant and racist view that he can not prove. He claimed that the "negro" may be better off as slaves. They claim the negro was beaten, saw there wives and daughters raped, and had there culture taken from them during slavery, but somehow and someway that is better for them than there current situation?

The way I see life you can have whatever view you wish but you have no business trying to force it on the next person. People like this guy become disturbing and dangerous when they align themselves with politicians and political groups like the republicans which this man has done. Why does he become dangerous when aligning himself with political groups? Because they are your lawmakers. Lawmakers are the reason for people being forced treated and locked into facilities even though they can not even prove that the person has what they are treating them for. Lawmakers are just like this guy. A bunch of people with unfounded opinions. The difference is when they finally get into a position to make there opinion enforceable by law they do so.

Finally, the only good thing about this guy is he keeps me on my toes and let's me know I should always vote because there are people like him out there with unfounded opinions that they would like to make enforceable through law and it has happened over and over again in our society. People like this win every time a law to force someone into treatment is passed or strengthen.
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Re: Bundy ranch standoff anti-authoritarians

Postby Copy_Cat » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:48 am

In the process of shutting down the land, the BLM has suspended Free Speech in the Area and has actually setup so-called free speech zones miles away from the ranch. That’s right, the federal government has actually banned free speech on over 600,000 acres of public land.

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1013 victim wrote:That guy expressed a very ignorant and racist view



I am not going to stop believing in the constitution / bill of rights all that stuff because some old man made some racist comments , I am not falling for it. Not me.

No way would I ever fall for this logic: Patriotism is bad cause this one patriot is racist, nope won't work on me CNN big media, it ain't happening.

And they said I have attention deficit disorder ! The subject here is NOT racism, pay attention.
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Re: Bundy ranch standoff anti-authoritarians

Postby P0ci » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:08 am

Copy you sound like a Ron Paul voter or worse a Libertarian lol.

Obama didn't force anyone to buy healthcare. And those that do get it is at a very cheap price.
It helped plenty of people who had no health insurance.

I personally am not the biggest fan of Obama especially on his forigen policy and the bs him and his black ops pulled off in eastern Europe. But fur Murica domestically hes done some good things.

It doesn't matter though, Putin can tear off shirt and kill bear. If uncle sam dares mess with mother Russia, they will probably emp murica and we will have a nice break from the interweb. lol
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Re: Bundy ranch standoff anti-authoritarians

Postby Copy_Cat » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:47 am

P0ci wrote:Obama didn't force anyone to buy healthcare.


Force
2.coercion or compulsion...
synonyms: coercion, compulsion, constraint, duress, oppression, harassment, intimidation, threats;
2. make (someone) do something against their will.
"she was forced into early retirement"
synonyms: compel, coerce, make, constrain, oblige, impel, drive, pressurize, pressure, press, push, press-gang, bully, dragoon, bludgeon;

penalty for no health insurance
http://www.google.com/search?q=penalty+for+no+health+insurance
penalty 1. a punishment imposed for breaking a law, rule, or contract.

Ya he did force people.
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Postby Copy_Cat » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:59 am

P0ci wrote:It doesn't matter though, Putin can tear off shirt and kill bear. If uncle sam dares mess with mother Russia, they will probably emp murica and we will have a nice break from the interweb. lol

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