Farm animals have more rights than psychiatric inpatients

Continuous total confinement of any animal indoors is prohibited…


§ 205.239 Livestock living conditions. [PARAPHRASED]

(a) The producer of an organic livestock operation must establish and maintain year-round livestock living conditions which accommodate the health and natural behavior of animals, including:

(1) Year-round access for all animals to the outdoors, shade, shelter, exercise areas, fresh air, clean water for drinking, and direct sunlight, suitable to the species, its stage of life, the climate, and the environment…Yards, feeding pads, and feedlots shall be large enough to allow all ruminant livestock to feed simultaneously without crowding and without competition for food. Continuous total confinement of any animal indoors is prohibited…

(4) Shelter designed to allow for:

(i) Natural maintenance, comfort behaviors, and opportunity to exercise.

Link to USDA Regulation:

http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2006/janqtr/pdf/7cfr205.239.pdf

Have you seen some of those movies about how they treat farm animals? I would not say that they have more rights than psych. inpatients.


take these cows out for a brielf "walk" and you have met all of the requirements that you listed.

I don't know about that. I've only been hospitalized once, back in June of 2012, and I had a lot more freedom than most livestock, at least from what I've seen of livestock. I live in a pretty rural area, too. I mean, sure, we weren't allowed to leave the psych ward, but I was allowed to socialize, play video games (only for about two hours a day, and it was stuff like Mario Kart and Wii Sports), I was allowed to have a radio, I was allowed to watch Star Wars, which they had two separate copies of, I was allowed to watch television, and even though they said not to watch violent stuff, we all did. We sat around in the lounge area, which is right where their office is, and we watched stuff that involved shooting and murdering and whatnot. I had a long menu of food to choose from too, both whenever I wanted it, and pre-planned meals as well, and they were good meals too. I've seen livestock be thrown into the back of trucks, with no moving space at all, in complete darkness, being sent to be killed. I really don't think psych patients have less rights than farm animals.

Tyler77 wrote:I don't know about that. I've only been hospitalized once, back in June of 2012, and I had a lot more freedom than most livestock, at least from what I've seen of livestock. I live in a pretty rural area, too. I mean, sure, we weren't allowed to leave the psych ward, but I was allowed to socialize, play video games (only for about two hours a day, and it was stuff like Mario Kart and Wii Sports), I was allowed to have a radio, I was allowed to watch Star Wars, which they had two separate copies of, I was allowed to watch television, and even though they said not to watch violent stuff, we all did. We sat around in the lounge area, which is right where their office is, and we watched stuff that involved shooting and murdering and whatnot. I had a long menu of food to choose from too, both whenever I wanted it, and pre-planned meals as well, and they were good meals too. I've seen livestock be thrown into the back of trucks, with no moving space at all, in complete darkness, being sent to be killed. I really don't think psych patients have less rights than farm animals.

Sounds like you were in a underage psych ward. That's baby stuff. Try getting locked up 3 times in a real psych ward where you scarred shitless someone is going to kill you or haul you away. Livestock at least get to do basic living necessities out in the open with sunlight and eat,###$ and sleep.

Did you get to ###$ when you were locked up? I don't think so.

No, I was nineteen when I was locked up. I was in there with an almost seventy year old man, and many other adults. In fact, I was the youngest one there for the eight days I was there. I did feel like someone was there to kill me, in fact, I had the social workers take a bite of my food before I even ate it for the first couple days. If it wasn't for that nearly seventy year old man and his friend, who was over the age of fifty, mind you, I probably wouldn't have gotten over that fact. Also, I don't know what "###$" is, maybe because I was only in there for eight days, unlike the guy who smeared feces all over my bathroom and threatened to rape the twenty-one year old girl who was in there. I don't know, maybe I did get off easy, but I still had more freedom than livestock.

I think what is happening here is that P0ci and Copy_cat are trying to make the argument that since people in psych wards can't go outside they have less rights than livestock vs looking at the whole picture.

In many states, a push is being made for freedom to fresh air.
http://www.m-power.org/right_to_fresh_a ... r_patients

Cheze2 wrote:I think what is happening here is that P0ci and Copy_cat are trying to make the argument that since people in psych wards can't go outside they have less rights than livestock vs looking at the whole picture.

In many states, a push is being made for freedom to fresh air.
http://www.m-power.org/right_to_fresh_a ... r_patients

Its more then just that, the treatment is that of a dog. Livestock, well at least the ones with good caretakers, get treated great.

You are better off a farm animal than in this place,

Published on Apr 1, 2014 Horrors at Massachusetts Bridgewater State Hospital
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4YGxK2tFZ0

Lawsuit hits methods at Bridgewater State Hospital
Boston Globe ‎- 10 hours ago

Cites confinements, seeks transfer of 175 patients http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/0 ... story.html

This place makes my month long inpatient psychiatric nightmare look a walk in the park. This Bridgewater State Hospital is a piece of hell right up here on earth.

Btw cheze, my first post edited out the slang cuss word for uhh fornication. Something livestock can do and inpatients cant... That was one of my points....