The truth about being Schizophrenic in Australia

I hear ya, same here I am victorian..actually new metnal health act coming out soon and they did extensive research in running forums like one I attentded about a new metnal health complaints commissioner..I am stoned now so thats why I am feeling ok about my situation, I am on a CTO and have been admitted to hopsital for refusing so they drug me up even more, last hosptial stay was 8weeks but my own fault for being so agressive in m y stance against psyc hiatry ignorance, and talking about extradimentional beings that came with time off the antipsychotic, I usually bought a week or so to feel my joy coming back and love interest in a celbrity, also my own fault for talking about darkhorse, pretty popular katy perry song in australia. sorry this is getting wasted on triviality or not important information, I write long usually and same with others that have posted, although mine apparently a\re disordered and hard to read.

if you in victoria they have MHRB and if you among the 7percent average release rate you can get off, but pretty hard bargain as they speak the same language as the psychiatrist and discriminate based on percieved risk as the psychiatarist are good a\t fudging or using what they can against you...I never su\cceeded so I went further to VCAT which is better option to put a good case together for them to make a real descision. I am still waitnign for review of material before she makes a descision...weighing up whether to send her material on what has come up recently in my thread that I talk about everything, dark corner and falling out of teleptathic astral connections with the celbrity, nevermind maybe she no good for me as I say in I am still afree man thread..pretty boring though, the arguement is psychosis is a trial of karmic integrity, I think that says it well I gonna use that again I hope, karmic purification over deficits or things that need to change in the pre-episode functioning, it resolves itslef with karmic purification and new lease on life, hard to discribe.

Shame that people are buying into the dangerous steriotype. people are naturally afraid of people with psychosis and thats one of the hurdles for the psychotic is people acting weird infront of you based on their fears or concepts of sanity and putrifying things that one needs to be clean of, family doing it with you is stupendous in how it initiates cycle to become more psychotic and disorganised and upset that ccan spark moods and feelings of anger or lashing out at something, thats just one way, or making idle threats to expalin how restricted say family are making you feel, it turns itself into hostile environments taht are further fuel to psychotic states and some of that hostility one takes on board in extyreme times, so society fuels this violence in the way it fears psychosis or anything differnet its like racial discrimination.

another thing I was gonna metnion is that they make out this kind of attitude toward service as "paranoia" and signs of the illness so be carefull they don't use that one on you for a longer hosptial stay refusing treatments, it doesn't work but the time in personal evolution and progress spiritually and karmically might be worth a short withdrawal if ypu lucky or spritual beings are onto you and want you to develop as much as posilbe in that short amount of time off from psychiatric drugging...sorry thats just way I see it, my relationship with psychiatry improved to my benefit to forget about it, now I don't think about anything but I was thinking idealiy with the celbrity that came back after refusing treatment and seemed to understand my predicament b etter to stay with me through the treatment...

as I said getting in debates everytime they inject you is a way to stay in hospital longer they make it out as being arguemetnative, and they get ###$ up and probably bring o8ut signs of frustration and call security or like in my psych ward a high security side of the ward but you get single bedroom, thats where they bring you when first get their ...for me it was ###$ up from sleep deprivation..my etradimentional beings are on call now to end bnad td let me get some sleep.

as I said its appaling the kind of stigma people with metnal illness have towared their own kind, as if the majority of schizophrenics would harm anything unless pushed by circumatances to act violently towarad say family, famiulies need to be educated

an another thing mass shootings are done by people taking drugs like ssri that lead to suicide or violence I think you'll find and not by people who stopped using and began to recover from the effect of psychiatric drugging and dealing whith pscyhiatrist that in my theory is also responsible for suicide for the crimes they commit against peoples identity, its a kind of violence to convince them to accept notions about ones own mind and responsability over it to a drug, its really sick, I can't even explain it at least to the point that it would make any sense. that toxic influece lead people to act irrationally or out of some insitnctual fight mechanism isntead of flighting from the situation wheree someone tries to convince you you are metnally ill and need to take medication its brainwashing and done really easy to convince the majority to make it uncomfortable and push psychiatry onto their neighbours and frineds that seem to them to hav e similar symptoms and they play pswcyhiatrist too and keep the system in full force , i guess society concepts of illness come into it...as a matter of fact I would only seem ill to my family or a shrink, and in the right environment flourish and have my full personality at my disposal, family were so restrictive and worry is not nice to be around. I pick up on bad $#%^ from worry telepathically it effets my consciousness and ev en at a distance or a flashback to a time the person was worrying, that worry made me threaten suicide and violence.
problem is that psychiatrist see that frustration still as psychoatic and because one was ill not because of the etremes of sick environments that bring out symptoms and agitation.

by the way I reccoment trying to find survivors out their that would advocate for you if they got it together, I hooked up withinternational advocate although dunno if he really worked to my favour for understaning that i needed to bring up topics that inevitably would be used against me such as being nabbed by police while I running from what was reported as aliens, I got sent to hospital but things were ###$ up, theynatyreally resolved themselves out of my home environment but that doesn't seem to matter ad onece I got sleep.

here I am making another long post talking about myslef and unimportant thing, I had better response in my head before I started writing about CTO in australia and what its really like

they say its paranoia that you think the clinic is harming you to not answer calls or come in, they think its paranoia of the medications, they like to think its paranoia but its totally not, that made me laugh last time they claimed I was paranoid with no basis but they make it up...I complained about that to no use threatened to sue the hospital while in hospital shouted a remark abouut my medication increase through the to8ugh glass and this $#%^ keeps you in hospital longer untill you calm down or most likesly the medications precent lateral thinking and reasoning and problem solving to attemtp challenging conversational remarks to a pscyhiatrist that they put dwon to your illness coz they wont understant or like me ask you to leave the interview for challenging them from an easy victim and they keep you in hospital longer as punishment ad increase the dose, never mind commenting on a song you think is about them or think that extradimetnional beings are helping you out goign on etradimetnional voyage of the universe to meet the other life forms kind of thing..highly evolved stuff and places like heaven and beyond to land of the gods and beyond even and beyond until a guide came down and helped me out while I was at hospital his name refered me to call him roger and thename made registrar psychiatrist laugh or at least smile, i think i did a good job to demand respect but they still used it against me to keep me involuntary, they couldn't really just use arguementative and disheavled yeah Iask the pscyhiatrist why they say I am schizophrenic and she says beecause I have long toenails I am discheaveled and therefore shcizophrenic plus they find it hard to be easy to talk to so make mistakes in communication etc etc won't go into it.

I owe it all to refusing treatment and having the threat of police come to my door and break in as they inevitably do in such a situation that you plainly refuse to open door to police. wouldn't suprise me that sometimes they would use pepper spray for doing that as they came at me with it in my face ..can't remember what I gonna say...oh yeah the experience I had with celbrity further catalysing me to fulfill evolutionary potentia with a journey into heaven and continue on some quests that I undertaokk other times I went off medictation even on a CTO..

be carefull if they have you on orals to get a good bight sleep every night no exceptions, thankfoully I have extradimentional being guides that will help me, I guess having something on hand for sleep would be a bonus but shrinks don't hink like that its antipscyhotic or nothing. ha I wish nothing, it wo8uld be ok if they monitored you or something with a nice case manager or something who visits while on CTO and no medication, can only dream

I use rauwolfia serpentina for sleep if I get causght tripping, but now the celbrity not come to me anymore I don't trip or think about jack $#%^...she doesn't like me anymore, but maybe I just need to get my life in order and get off antipsychotics and be able to meet a real girl not just some imaginary thing with a celbrity that gets me trippin.

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sandy hook is a good conspiracy to look into, its totally wierd just look up the news footage and you see no children and the reports of the children claim uniforms came in and no report of the gunshots not one of them and they put it on the news heaps of $#%^ but guess when you talking about lanza his mum didn't even owork at the school, lanza was used for some reason by whoever staged this for gun control and metnal health agenda o crack down on the image of unmedicated people with mental illness's ...they probably had him on adderal anyway if he existed...

Could probably blame 9-11 on high functionins schizophrenics in high places coz they weren't hijacked airoplanes that hit the twin towers, and heaps of $#%^ like having to use explaosives to bring dwon like perfect demolisiton of building and raw steel that ariroplaine fire could't do..sorry thats got nothing to do with it..

Hey wonder if they made anyone schizophrenic for believing in either of these theories, I bet pscyhiatrist love to diagnose it as something, but it is about reality and how sick the world is that they use the media to brainwash people with staged shooting of innocent schoolchildren.

Unfortunately Sandy Hook was not staged.

From the pictures, Adam Lanza appeared to have Cardio-velar facial syndrome. This is a disorder that's genetic, and affects the heart and facial features, and carries a 50% risk of developing severe psychiatric illness as well.

And yes, it was done by a person who had severe mental illness and refused treatment, and was given guns by his mother. That was a bad choice she made.

But it has not led to any changes in requiring medication or treatment for people with mental illness who refuse help.

Actually there have been a great many shootings and attacks for many years - none had led to any change.

smithywise wrote:Unfortunately Sandy Hook was not staged.

From the pictures, Adam Lanza appeared to have Cardio-velar facial syndrome. This is a disorder that's genetic, and affects the heart and facial features, and carries a 50% risk of developing severe psychiatric illness as well.

And yes, it was done by a person who had severe mental illness and refused treatment, and was given guns by his mother. That was a bad choice she made.

But it has not led to any changes in requiring medication or treatment for people with mental illness who refuse help.

Actually there have been a great many shootings and attacks for many years - none had led to any change.

LOL his mother gave him guns? I don't believe that. Whats your source of info?

P0ci wrote:

smithywise wrote:Unfortunately Sandy Hook was not staged.

From the pictures, Adam Lanza appeared to have Cardio-velar facial syndrome. This is a disorder that's genetic, and affects the heart and facial features, and carries a 50% risk of developing severe psychiatric illness as well.

And yes, it was done by a person who had severe mental illness and refused treatment, and was given guns by his mother. That was a bad choice she made.

But it has not led to any changes in requiring medication or treatment for people with mental illness who refuse help.

Actually there have been a great many shootings and attacks for many years - none had led to any change.

LOL his mother gave him guns? I don't believe that. Whats your source of info?

Multiple friend of hers, who were interviewed over and over in the media, and said the same things again and again in the media, and the police, who collected the receipts and documentation from the home.

Believe what you want, if you think she didn't, you're wrong. She meant well, but she was in denial about how sick he was getting, almost til the end.

Until that point, she was like many parents I meet who are living in a fantasy world when it comes to how sick their children are.

When I was in college there were a number of kids like Adam Lanza, who the parents sent off to college. They had very severe episodes in college, often within the first couple days of the fall term starting.

One woman was severely ill and ran up and down the halls cutting near her eyes with a piece of glass. She had put her hand through a big window and there was blood all over her.

It took about six people to hold her and keep her from hurting herself more.

Another woman was in a boarding house I lived at. She was too ill to do self care and would wander around the house with menstrual blood dripping down her legs.

Another guy had bipolar with psychotic symptoms and would stay up for days at a time screaming and laughing.

One guy, jumped out of a building and landed next to a friend of mine, who was traumatized by that for a very long time and developed PTSD and depression as a result.

College age is the time when most people start to have obvious symptoms, but some of them had had symptoms for a long time and the parents sent them off to college anyway. Just in denial I guess - or some antipsych people got ahold of them.

Starting a few weeks before Adam Lanza shot up the school and killed his mother and himself, Mrs Lanza made comments to friends that she was 'losing him', that he was 'very troubled'. She talked about moving away and trying to find a residential facility for him.

Too much information and too many people corroborated her actions. She did it, and she told her friends she did, and they were frequently seen at shooting ranges together.

Adam Lanza was a nice kid. He just got very sick. Too sick to accept any help.

Same with the Aurora shooter, the guy who shot Giffords and a number of other people, the VA Tech shooter, and many others.

Give a person a choice if they want to be off medication or not.
Remove that choice if person is so deranged/mentally unstable at the time that they can't control there safety and well being, re instate that choice if person recovers.
Simple

smithywise wrote:

P0ci wrote:

smithywise wrote:Unfortunately Sandy Hook was not staged.

From the pictures, Adam Lanza appeared to have Cardio-velar facial syndrome. This is a disorder that's genetic, and affects the heart and facial features, and carries a 50% risk of developing severe psychiatric illness as well.

And yes, it was done by a person who had severe mental illness and refused treatment, and was given guns by his mother. That was a bad choice she made.

But it has not led to any changes in requiring medication or treatment for people with mental illness who refuse help.

Actually there have been a great many shootings and attacks for many years - none had led to any change.

LOL his mother gave him guns? I don't believe that. Whats your source of info?

Multiple friend of hers, who were interviewed over and over in the media, and said the same things again and again in the media, and the police, who collected the receipts and documentation from the home.

Believe what you want, if you think she didn't, you're wrong. She meant well, but she was in denial about how sick he was getting, almost til the end.

Until that point, she was like many parents I meet who are living in a fantasy world when it comes to how sick their children are.

When I was in college there were a number of kids like Adam Lanza, who the parents sent off to college. They had very severe episodes in college, often within the first couple days of the fall term starting.

One woman was severely ill and ran up and down the halls cutting near her eyes with a piece of glass. She had put her hand through a big window and there was blood all over her.

It took about six people to hold her and keep her from hurting herself more.

Another woman was in a boarding house I lived at. She was too ill to do self care and would wander around the house with menstrual blood dripping down her legs.

Another guy had bipolar with psychotic symptoms and would stay up for days at a time screaming and laughing.

One guy, jumped out of a building and landed next to a friend of mine, who was traumatized by that for a very long time and developed PTSD and depression as a result.

College age is the time when most people start to have obvious symptoms, but some of them had had symptoms for a long time and the parents sent them off to college anyway. Just in denial I guess - or some antipsych people got ahold of them.

Starting a few weeks before Adam Lanza shot up the school and killed his mother and himself, Mrs Lanza made comments to friends that she was 'losing him', that he was 'very troubled'. She talked about moving away and trying to find a residential facility for him.

Too much information and too many people corroborated her actions. She did it, and she told her friends she did, and they were frequently seen at shooting ranges together.

Adam Lanza was a nice kid. He just got very sick. Too sick to accept any help.

Same with the Aurora shooter, the guy who shot Giffords and a number of other people, the VA Tech shooter, and many others.

Sorry but theres to much counter evidence for me to believe any of these shotting were as mass media describes.

Ever hear of monarch/MKultra mind control? Or even a staged shooting? I remember when sandy hook happened the first 30 min of it being reported while everything was still a mystery one channel said their were MULTIPLE shooters. As far as im concerned if Lanza did exist hes just another Oswald, a patsy.

What you won't find amongst any of the forced treatment cant is any mention of the dubious foundations upon which the claims to the therapeutic efficacy of these drugs rest. The tacit assumption in much of their reasoning is that these drugs are of real efficacy, yet this fails to pass muster. Indeed, I think that many of the neuroleptics act like psychotimimetics, and are at the least contrindicated for many people who take them, either of their own volition or not.

That should have been "psychotomimetics".

Take seroquel for example, a good place to start because it is considered one of the relatively more benign neuroleptics, in that it generally isn't associated with the extrapyramidal disruption one gets with your haldols, stelazines, and risperidones, which if you do get that is usually of late onset. I have been on seroquel for years, and one of its most pronounced effects for me, as with many others, is an almost paralyzing fear mixed wih depression, leaving you rigid with anguish, lending a sinister coloration to one's environment, imbuing even the most mundane of household objects with an almost nefarious or otherwise funereal quality, your mind assailed by bleak ruminations on death and every fibre of your being charged with fear of eternity.

Yet these drugs are forced into the bodies of people supposedly for their own good! Preposterous. Whilst in hospital for a major operation recently, I was horribly sleep deprived fpr the whole week, barely getting a wink, but obviously I had to take my "meds", which furnished me with insight into what it must be like for all the traumatised, sleep deprived, "psychotic" individuals, such as the homeless (who are labelled "mentally ill" en masse, which is just a classic case of the fundamental attribution error, an error that encompasses many of the presuppositions of the profession), to have this forced into their veins, because in a fragile, sleep deprived state (sleep deprivation is at the heart of so much of what we call "psychosis", a word I use scare quotes for both because of a rejection of the assumptions built into the term and because of its role as an accessory to crimes against humanity) the effects are only amplified. My environment was peopled with phantoms and demons, I couldn't close my eyes for the fear, yet people in similar states as I was in are being forced to take this! Preposterous.

Maybe when some of the forced treatment brigade start actually taking these drugs and become acquainted with things such as akathisia, tardive dyskinesia, dystonia, and the rest of the tortures these drugs are apt to inflict on the taker, maybe then there will be some scope for discussion (although I'll still defend the right to bodily self-ownership), but until then it really is hard to take seriously the claims they make about drugs they haven't even taken, and would no doubt get a nasty shock if they, like the first time I took stelazine, developed symptoms of NMS, such as almost (literally) neck-breaking cervical dystonia.

Advocates of forced treatment usually invoke examples (which are often nothing more than a twisted skein of lies and exaggerations) where a person supposedly needs "treatment", carefully framing the issue in euphemistic pseudo-medical terms and exploiting the positive imagery and calming emotional resonances of words like "treatment", "care", and "therapy". Allowing for the possibility someone maybe helped by this, does that really justify human sacrifice? Proponents talk of a moral imperative to treat "mental illness" (no such imperative exists for physical illnesses, a revealing inconsistency), how it is the only morally responsible thing to do, as if torturing, abusing and killing people is morally responsible, torture and and violence being part of the stock in trade of the profession.

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