Alleged Schizophrenic Boy is Shot and Killed by Police

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMgBw4c0LWU

What began as a family’s call to police for help in calming a schizophrenic teenager armed with a screwdriver and a mouthful of threats ended with police gunfire and heartache.

The killing of Keith Vidal, 18, of Boling Springs Lakes, NC, over the weekend has spurred a state investigation into the teen’s death and a family’s call for answers as they say police shot Vidal in cold blood.

Family of Vidal said they called police on Sunday afternoon to help subdue the 90-pound teen who was holding a small screwdriver and threatening to fight his mother during a schizophrenic episode. Two officers responded to the family’s home and restrained Vidal. Then, a third officer arrived and soon thereafter reportedly shot Vidal, Mark Wilsey, Vidal’s step-father, told reporters during a press-conference on Monday.

According to Wilsey, as the first two officers were restraining Vidal, the third officer walked into the family’s house and said “I don’t have time for this. Tase him. Let’s get him out of here,” Wilsey said. At that point, one of the officers used a stun gun on Vidal. The young man hit the ground and “this guy shot him,” Wilsey said.

Vidal was taken to a local hospital where he was declared dead.

When Wilsey asked why the officer had shot the teen, he said the officer replied, “Well, I’m protecting my officers.”

“He reached right up, shot this kid point-blank, with all intent to kill,” Wilsey said. “Keith was not threatening anybody, Keith did not want any part of it. He was having a bad day,” Wilsey said. “He was flat out murdered, there was no need for deadly force. No reason.”

The North Carolina State Bureau of Investigation is looking into the killing, standard practice in police-involved shootings, and prosecutors have vowed to seek the truth of the matter “wherever the truth leads.”

“The public deserves to have a process put in place that will lead to the most just resolution,” Brunswick County District Attorney Jon David said.

One of the three officers involved in the shooting, Detective Byron Vassey, a nine-year veteran with the Southport police department, has been placed on administrative leave, according to Chief Jerry Dove, who spoke during a press conference with prosecutors on Monday. Dove would not say whether or not Vassey was the officer who pulled the trigger in the boy’s death.

Officers from two other agencies, the Brunswick County Sheriff’s Office and the Boiling Spring Lakes Police Department, were on the scene at the time of Vidal’s killing. But Vassey so far is the only officer to be placed on leave.

Vidal’s family was not invited to Monday’s press conference, but they showed up nonetheless, with placards adorned with the teen’s face, photos that gave no indication of his troubles and struggles with mental illness.

In one of the placards, Vidal is seen in a selfie, holding a cell phone in front of a mirror with the word “why,” printed in big black letters over his left shoulder.

“Why, why did this child have to die?” said Mary Wilsey, Vidal’s mother, holding a photo of the teen hugging someone in a large, furry Gumby costume. “We want justice for my son’s death. This officer who shot my son needs to be behind bars, he needs to die the way my son died.”

A family friend, Anthony Owens, told the Star News that he hopes the officer who killed Vidal “lies in bed at night and cries like we have to.”

Vidal’s death comes just weeks after his 18th birthday, on a Sunday afternoon that by all accounts had gone off without much ado. But soon that would all change. The cops had come to the home before, family members told the Star News. Vidal was schizophrenic and depressive, they said. But he was never violent. The cops would usually come and talk with him until he calmed down.

On this day Vidal was sweeping the floor, holding a screw driver. At some point he threatened to fight his mother. At 12:31 p.m., according to records, Mark Wilsey called 911.

“We wanted him to put the screwdriver down because he does have schizophrenia and we didn’t know if he was gonna hurt himself,” Wilsey told the Star News.

The first officers arrived on the scene at 12:34. Less than 15 minutes later, Vidal had been shot, killed just seconds after the Vassey arrived on the scene. There remain more questions than answers in the teen’s death. And as investigators, prosecutors, and the teen’s family try to unpack just why a stun gun and eventually lethal force was needed to subdue a 90-pound teenager with no apparent history of violence, the business of mourning goes on.

An aunt of Vidal’s who was reached by telephone by MSNBC on Tuesday morning said the family was grieving, and that their focus is on answers but also on burying Vidal.

“We need to address Keith and take care of those arrangements,” the woman said just above a whisper. “We just ask, please, don’t let this happen again."

NAMI parents get there kid killed. Tue January 7, 2014

WHAT IS A COMMITMENT PLAN?
A commitment plan is a list of sneaky strategies and social manipulation techniques that family and friends can use when they are tired of dealing with a mentally ill loved one. It helps them not have to listen to or empathize with their loved ones thoughts and feelings.

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'We called for help, and they killed my son,' North Carolina man says

"Everything was going good," Mark Wilsey said, according to WWAY. "Then this fat cop from Southport walks in the room, walks around the corner, says, 'We don't have time for this. Tase that kid now. Let's get him out of here.' "

and

WECT attributed a slightly different accounting of events to Mark Wilsey. In that retelling, the stepfather said officers had pinned Vidal to the ground after he had been tased and one of the officers said, "We don't have time for this" and shot his stepson.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/07/justice/north-carolina-teen-killed/

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Did the NAMI parents turn over furniture first to get the cops to react better like NAMI site suggests ?

Read more http://www.patrisser.com/family/JaffeTurnOverFurniture.htm

Thanks NAMI pharma front group.

Keith Vidal was 18 and had every right to refuse Psychiatry.

How to prepare for an emergency

by

D.J. Jaffe

Sometime, during the course of your loved one’s illness, you may need the police. By preparing now, before you need help, you can make the day you need help go much more smoothly. There are three things to do.

First, you should establish contact with your local precinct, before you need help. (That’s right. Violate your loved one’s privacy and get them flagged by the local cops. This way, they will know to show up with one hand on their balls and the other hand on their tasers.)

Secondly, you should have the attached info sheet filled out in duplicate, ready at all times.

Thirdly, you should read the article at the end of this page on how to make 911 respond to your calls. (The part where we explain how to make a false report and support it with “evidence” such as furniture we turn over ourselves to make it look like our loved one is violent.)

1. ESTABLISH CONTACT WITH PRECINCT

Someday your loved one may be missing from home or hospital. Normally, the police will not fill out a missing persons report & start looking for them until they are gone 24 hours. But by making arrangements beforehand, you can insure that if this happens to you, they will start looking immediately. Or, let’s say your relative is becoming increasingly agitated & uncontrollable & you have to call the police to take them to a hospital. It is very likely that the police will go to the hospital of their choice, not yours. But by making arrangements beforehand, you can have a say in where that person is taken. In addition, if your relative is picked up for some crime (drugs, let’s say); by making prior arrangements, you can help see that they go to a hospital instead of jail. Finally, it may make it easier for you to get someone involuntarily committed, if & when you have to do that.

The way to make these arrangements is to call the “Community Patrol Officer Program” (C-POP Officer) at your local police precinct, now, before you need help. If you do not have a C-POP program (i.e, outside NYC), call the station commander.

Tell them that you have a MI relative at home & that you want to make the police aware of it, in case you ever need help. Tell them you are worried that if they are ever missing the police won’t start looking until after 24 hours; or that if you need police to take your relative to a hospital, they won’t go to the one you want; or that if your relative is busted, they will go to jail, instead of to a hospital. Tell the C-POP (pronounced, “see-pop”) officer, that it was suggested that individuals with MI relatives contact the C-POP officers, before help is needed to make them aware of the situation, & that is why you are calling. The officer may think this is unusual, but you should do it anyway. FOLLOW THE CONVERSATION UP, WITH A LETTER ADDRESSED TO THE C-POP OFFICER & SEND A COPY TO THE PRECINCT COMMANDER.

If you ever do need help, call 911 if it’s an emergency. If not, call your local precinct. When the police come, mention the C-POP Officer & Precinct Commander by name. The police who come to your door do not know what to expect. By mentioning these names, you help calm them & help identify that it is not you who needs help, it is your relative. They will also be more likely to listen to you, & may even get the Commander on the phone or walkie talkie. Because you have prepared ahead of time, they are more likely to take the person where you want them to be taken, & to listen to you carefully. Be calm. (and bring donuts)

2. PREPARE INFORMATION & HAVE IT READY

If your relative needs emergency hospitalization, it will be extremely stressful to everyone. It is made more difficult by the myriad of questions that need to be answered. By having the answers to these questions written and ready, you can insure that the emergency hospitalization will not only be less stressful, but that your relative is more likely to get proper care. For instance, identify his doctor, & what medicines he is currently on, so those medicines can be continued, increased, or removed as appropriate. Indicate what hospital you use. Below is a form you should fill out. After filling it out, make two copies & keep one on hand (in your wallet) all the time. One for you, one for the police, one for the hospital.

FILL OUT THE FOLLOWING FORM AND KEEP DUPLICATES HANDY

CRISIS INFORMATION PAGE (FOR POLICE/HOSPITAL/EMS)

Please take this person to _____________________hospital.

This person is not a criminal. He/she has a mental illness. Please treat with compassion and dignity. Thank you. (That part is to assuage your conscience, so you can sleep without concern that your loved one has been arrested, hand-cuffed, four-point-restrained, or coerced under threat of physical force to remove them from their home to a locked facility where they will be drugged and, perhaps, restrained to a bed, placed in an empty room with a mattress on the floor, or even electroshocked against their will with your consent. Better yet, just invent your own definition of compassion and dignity to include these degrading human rights violations.)

Helping NAMI parents overcome laziness , Read more: http://www.namidearest.com

This happends all the time, Keith Vidal 18 is not the first killed for fighting to refuse psychiatric "treatment".

Story # 2

Man Tased By Suffolk Police Dies Following Altercation

“But when they told Simmons they were taking him to a hospital for a psychiatric evaluation, he began kicking and punching them, Fitzpatrick said.

All three officers wrestled with Simmons on the floor while trying to handcuff him. Two of them used a Taser on the resident; he also was hit with pepper spray.”

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/07/25/man-tased-by-suffolk-police-dies-following-altercation/

This man also resisted police cause he knew what “psychiatric evaluation” really means, a locked facility where he will be drugged into zombie oblivion like it or not and perhaps restrained to a bed, placed in an empty room with a mattress on the floor, or even electroshocked against his will…

holy crap, and he's only 90 pounds!? what were they thinking? x.x

the police just keep getting worse and worse.

Listen to the CALM COOL “distressed call” to police by the step father.

http://www.heavy.com/news/2014/01/keith-vidal-cops-shoot-schizophrenic-teen-nc/

“we had to put him in before”

“wont take his medication and stuff”

WHAT IS A COMMITMENT PLAN?
A commitment plan is a list of sneaky strategies and social manipulation techniques that family and friends can use when they are tired of dealing with a mentally ill loved one.

http://www.wect.com/category/240209/video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=9700760

NAMI brainwashes parents to make false police reports against the vulnerable they seek to suppress. Their own brochure they hand out 2003-11-29 NAMI turn furniture instructed parents to repeatedly call the police with a detailed instruction list on how to handle the so-called mental patient should they ever ring up the pig sty again with a supposed real emergency. Then the brochure instructs parents to flip over furniture, break lamps, and call the police and tell them that the so-called mental patient is dangerous and tell the police to forcibly take the so-called mental patient to the quack pHARMa rape prison to get so-called help. The law, as it stands now, is that a person has to be clearly dangerous for the police to take them. The police cannot just show up and take people because control freak yuppy parents worry that the kid has depression or is too energetic. NAMI thinks the law is the problem. The law is getting in the way of sending more victims to quack phARMa rape prisons, so NAMI’s solution is to teach parents how to break the law by making false police reports. NAMI isn’t grass roots as they claim to be. It is entirely run by pHARMa. Who else could be evil enough to promote that scam?

Read it for yourself,

http://web.archive.org/web/200503212345 ... calls.html

I really don't like the title of this thread "Schizophrenic Boy"

Compare the picture in your mind of "Schizophrenic Boy" with the real person who made this video.

Keith Vidal-Memphis May Fire-Alive in the Light drum cover
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqWLkKBB3jQ

His youtube channel is still up.

The NAMI organization sent tips and tricks to its members on getting "help" for a mentally ill relative. One of the "tips" was to turn over the furniture and trash a room, then call the police and tell them the ill relative did it.

That's here http://web.archive.org/web/20050321234501/http://www.seorf.ohiou.edu/~xx091/911calls.html

More on NAMI Here http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/National_Alliance_on_Mental_Illness


With that out of the way read the false news reports.


#1.

Keith Vidal, 18, of Boiling Springs Lake, N.C., was shot by police on Sunday. The teenager was weilding a screwdriver when his terrified parents phoned police for help. They were hoping to have police get the boy medical help, but had their son slain by cops.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/north-carolina-cops-justified-shooting-teen-police-group-article-1.1570872

“his terrified parents phoned police for help.”

#2.

“IT ALL started with a distressed call to emergency services. Keith Vidal, 18, was in the grips of a schizophrenic episode and he wasn’t taking his medication. – See more at: http://www.coloradonewsday.com/national/36577-911-call-ends-in-fat-cop-tragedy-with-teenager-keith-vidal-shot-dead.html


Now listen to the 911 call , I heard a 100% total lack of terror and distress !!!

The 911 call, listen http://www.wect.com/category/240209/video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=9700760

Or here http://web.archive.org/web/20140111221923/http://www.wect.com/category/240209/video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=9700760

What terror and distress !!! ????????????????

Did anyone hear or not hear terror or distress ? Maybe I missed it , I was accused of mental illness a few times myself. Let me know, comments please.

I agree, I don't really hear "terror" in the voice of the step father. Though I do have to say that oftentimes parents have been through similar things so often in the past that it almost becomes automatic.