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List of options for protection against psychiatric assault

Postby Spazierklavier » Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:42 am

What do you think of collecting ideas on how to protect ourselves from the system?
I am especially interested in any legal ways to secure your freedom as well as your physical and mental integrity from any violent intervention in different countries.

One of the pragmatic strategies in my mind is to not attract attention, e.g. by staying at home while in crisis, not talking about suicidal feelings and such (or at least only keep in touch with those you can trust). Also, it can be good to have friends who are critical of the system and will help you get out when caught.

In my country you can legally preclude the option of being treated against your will. The law about advanced health care directives does include the so-called psychiatric disorders here. That means you can say that you want a certain drug in a certain dose, but you can also say that you do not want to be treated at all. You can even prohibit any medical examination concerning a presumed disorder and thereby any diagnosis.
To make sure this works out you should add an attestation clause about your current mental health status (you will usually find a physician who signs that even if he knows you have been on a psych ward before) as well as have the document notarized.

Is there any comparable option where you live?
Maybe forced treatment has even been abolished?
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Re: List of options for protection against psychiatric assau

Postby Copy_Cat » Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:45 pm

I think the number one thing to do is to inform family and friends about the reality of psychiatric assault. I heard over and over on the telephones at the hospital people pleading with there families for help and then watched the despair as they were told "you have to stay and get the 'help' you need".

My one friend in there was absolutely terrified after witnessing staff take down and inject a 'patient' and was pleading with his family every day to "get me out of here", he felt so unsafe and could absolutely not relax locked in that environment, not at all, it was horrible to listen to. He went home with major PTSD thanks to that 'help' he got at the psych pharma rape prison.

I was struggling not to get assaulted myself, they put there hands on this scattered young girl who refused a staff order and everything thing inside me wanted to use all the force I could possible muster defend her but I knew I would be drug raped (injected) for doing so, a beating I can take, drug rape no thanks.

Families read "Web MD" or a hundred times worse are brain washed by the pharmaceutical front group NAMI: National Alliance on Mental Illness and are clueless to what really goes on or why it goes on. That's why those phone calls from the hospital have no effect.

More on NAMI here http://bipolar-stanscroniclesandnarritive.blogspot.com/2010/04/nami-pimping-drugs-for-cash-just-cont.html

Also the CCHR videos are are great way to educate families about the true nature of psychiatric "treatment".

http://www.youtube.com/user/CCHRInt
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Re: List of options for protection against psychiatric assau

Postby Copy_Cat » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:43 pm

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Welcome to MindFreedom Shield Campaign

Members of MindFreedom International use mutual support to protect one another from unwanted coerced psychiatric procedures.

http://www.mindfreedom.org/campaign/shield
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Re: List of options for protection against psychiatric assau

Postby Copy_Cat » Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:00 pm

# 3

psychiatric living will

http://www.google.com/search?q=psychiatric+living+will

Lots of links, just beware of the NAMI info , they are a paid front for the pharmaceutical companies.

The US based Alliance for the Mentally Ill (NAMI) which has been posing as a grassroots organization representing the mentally ill has been exposed as mouthpiece for the large hospital management companies and the pharmaceutical industry.

Links below for more info.

http://bipolar-stanscroniclesandnarritive.blogspot.com/2010/04/nami-pimping-drugs-for-cash-just-cont.html

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/National_Alliance_on_Mental_Illness


Wile posing as advocates, NAMI never speaks up about patient human rights or pharma pushing pills with fraud .
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Re: List of options for protection against psychiatric assau

Postby Copy_Cat » Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:19 pm

Spazierklavier wrote:You can even prohibit any medical examination concerning a presumed disorder and thereby any diagnosis.


Don't worry about that, People are being mislead by a multi billion-dollar a year drugging industry that a diagnoses of "mental disorder" (ADHD, Bi-Polar, Social Anxiety Disorder) are medical diseases or illnesses. This is a fraud. No ever gets a brain scan, blood test, X-Ray or any test for evidence of physical abnormality to verify they are "ill" or "diseased." This is not to say that people do not get depressed, or that people can’t experience emotional or mental duress, but psychiatry has repackaged these emotions and behaviors as “disease” in order to sell drugs.

If anyone say's you are sick and need drugs you should ask for a medical examination to confirm this.

(Then observe the stupid look on there face as they try to explain the lack of any tests).
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Re: List of options for protection against psychiatric assau

Postby Otter » Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:25 pm

Spazierklavier wrote:
One of the pragmatic strategies in my mind is to not attract attention, e.g. by staying at home while in crisis, not talking about suicidal feelings and such (or at least only keep in touch with those you can trust).


I'm not entirely against Psychiatric treatment, but I do want to stay out of hospitals. My motto for thirty years has been, "if I don't say or do anything crazy, then they wont think I am crazy". It's not easy at times but I have made it through. Like you mentioned, I stay at home when things get rough, that has been a HUGE help. I have purposely made my environment quiet, and there is a method I use to struggle through.

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Re: List of options for protection against psychiatric assau

Postby P0ci » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:01 pm

Copy_Cat wrote:
Spazierklavier wrote:You can even prohibit any medical examination concerning a presumed disorder and thereby any diagnosis.


Don't worry about that, People are being mislead by a multi billion-dollar a year drugging industry that a diagnoses of "mental disorder" (ADHD, Bi-Polar, Social Anxiety Disorder) are medical diseases or illnesses. This is a fraud. No ever gets a brain scan, blood test, X-Ray or any test for evidence of physical abnormality to verify they are "ill" or "diseased." This is not to say that people do not get depressed, or that people can’t experience emotional or mental duress, but psychiatry has repackaged these emotions and behaviors as “disease” in order to sell drugs.

If anyone say's you are sick and need drugs you should ask for a medical examination to confirm this.

(Then observe the stupid look on there face as they try to explain the lack of any tests).


So true.
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Re: List of options for protection against psychiatric assau

Postby 1013 victim » Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:51 pm

your family is not your help when doing this
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Re: List of options for protection against psychiatric assau

Postby Heather_55 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:54 pm

Happy to hear people talking about this. As one who was hospitalized by my family , forcibly injected with drugs, witnessed and experienced sexual abuse,etc. I know it is real. Problem is-usually the victims are totally helpless to free themselves. Amazingly enough I ran away once-which was a miracle because i was being watched closely. Another time a gay couple that I met in a hospital waiting room drove up to visit me in the place I had been shipped to. They would only release me to family-and my parents had told all my relatives to not accept my calls. Even some of the workers there said I shouldn't be there. So somehow-this gay couple offered to take me and I went to stay with them for awhile. Although I couldn't really relate to their lifestyle-I greatly appreciated their kindness.
where do you go when you are a lost child with no where to turn?
now i believe in God and He has been good to me -but i still have along way to go in learning to trust and the scars of the past seem so deep and painful still.
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