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Please give me lots of answers and advice

Postby gregorym » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:20 pm

I stole from open cars and now I'm on house arrest, I have 4 counts on me. I've been to a mental hospital twice when I was younger. I'm 18 and i've lost over 135 pounds, I'm eating healthy organic food, taking multivitamin mineral complex thats organic, I try minimize fluoride intake and I started building muscle. I really wouldn't want to be taking "medicine" because of all the adverse side effects. Its very bad for you, right? Well I know it is. I dropped out early 10th grade, I have my GED though and I'm ready to excel with my life. I really don't want to be taking any medications, that will mess up my brain and the way I think with other side effects. If the courts want me taking it do I even have a choice? I'm sure if I take it I will probably be in less trouble with the court system but I really don't want to damage my body and mind. I know I screwed up with stealing from open cars, but I'm done with that and don't want to get into more trouble. Any tips on my upcoming court date or the Mental evaluation situation that will be a bit sooner? Should I take the treatment plan if they offer it to me, Can I do the the program with no medications. I live in Illinois. I'm hoping for probation, and or maybe something like community service. Or Boot Camp if the court would want to give me time, do you think they would be okay with that.
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Postby P0ci » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:07 am

If they mandate you take meds your screwed.
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Re: Please give me lots of answers and advice

Postby Copy_Cat » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:30 pm

gregorym wrote: Mental evaluation situation that will be a bit sooner?



I maintain my right not to have any psychiatric evaluation or diagnosis based upon the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) as such diagnoses are unreliable. According to Allen Frances, who was chairman of the fourth edition of DSM, “There are no objective tests in psychiatry—no X-ray, laboratory, or exam finding that says definitely that someone does or does not have a mental disorder.” (“Psychiatric Fads and Overdiagnosis,” Psychology Today, 2 June 2010.) Additionally, the DSM system is not scientific. It’s own editors state that “there is no assumption that each category of mental disorder is a completely discrete entity with absolute boundaries dividing it from other mental disorders or from no mental disorder.” (DSM-IV, pg. xxii)
Such codes and descriptions should not be entered into my medical records as this unreliable and unscientific information will remain in my records and may wrongly influence any future medical treatment I might receive.

P0ci wrote:If they mandate you take meds your screwed.


Ya, it never ends. These "disorders" are presumed permanent. Life long by default.

You don't want to be put in "chemical prison". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_restraint

Seriously , playing the mental health card is NOT the easier way out.

If you are stupid enough to testify against yourself on the record to a state psychiatrist at least study the symptoms of the major disorders , schizophrenia , bipolar , and deny deny deny any symptoms !

I would refuse contact with and treatment by any psychiatrist, psychologist or other mental health practitioner as these practices, according to my philosophic and/or religious convictions, do not adequately or properly diagnose and such diagnoses can constitute a false accusation about my behavior and/or beliefs and practices, and are stigmatizing and therefore a threat to one's reputation and physical and mental well-being. If in the future, I am accused of a crime, then I direct that I be subject to due process accorded to the criminally accused and not subjected to psychiatric or psychological assessment, processing, profile, confinement or treatments.

-- Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:33 pm --

January 3, 2014, President Obama stripped everyone who is subjected to forced in-home treatment of their second amendment constitutional rights.

The federal law prohibiting the purchasing or possession of a firearm had applied to people who had been involuntarily hospitalized. Not anymore. Now tens of thousands of people under this psychiatric community involuntary treatment like your looking at, have suddenly lost one of their constitutional rights.


Have fun with that too.
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Re: Please give me lots of answers and advice

Postby Copy_Cat » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:44 pm

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In this film you'll discover that... Many of the drugs side effects may actually make your ‘mental illness’ worse. Psychiatric drugs can induce aggression or depression. Some psychotropic drugs prescribed to children are more addictive than cocaine. Psychiatric diagnoses appears to be based on dubious science. Of the 297 mental disorders contained with the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, none can be objectively measured by pathological tests.

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Re: Please give me lots of answers and advice

Postby Copy_Cat » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:04 pm

(e) The mental health court program may include a regimen of graduated requirements and rewards and sanctions, including but not limited to: fines, fees, costs, restitution, incarceration of up to 180 days, individual and group therapy, medication , drug analysis testing, close monitoring by the court and supervision of progress, educational or vocational counseling as appropriate and other requirements necessary to fulfill the mental health court program.
(Source: P.A. 95-606, eff. 6-1-08.)

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=2947&ChapterID=55
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Postby gregorym » Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:53 pm

Thanks for the tips guys, at my bond hearing my mom suggested to my public defender to mention my past two hospitalized back when I was younger and I told the public Defender sure. Hopefully that won't effect anything. I want to do boot camp if the courts won't give me probation. I won't be taking the mental plan if they offer it to me. Unless maybe they say I don't need to take any of their drugs, but probably not.
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Re: Please give me lots of answers and advice

Postby Copy_Cat » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:30 pm

gregorym wrote:Thanks for the tips guys, at my bond hearing my mom suggested to my public defender to mention my past two hospitalized back when I was younger and I told the public Defender sure. Hopefully that won't effect anything. I want to do boot camp if the courts won't give me probation. I won't be taking the mental plan if they offer it to me. Unless maybe they say I don't need to take any of their drugs, but probably not.


Boot camp run by sadists from the dept of corrections , that sucks.

The "easiest" way out is to just do time, 30 days maybe ??? and get on with your life. I know the worst part about jail is the other people in jail, their ignorant vocabulary, speech patterns and topics of discussion...awful , but time goes quick. Eat-read-sleep repeat repeat.

Keep posting, I am interested in the methods they use coerce this mental health court "pharma mind incarceration" plan, how it works ect.

-- Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:39 pm --

Seems to me that for people who want psychiatry and can't afford it committing a crime might be a useful way to skip the line on the waiting list.
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