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Psych drugs and American Soldiers

Postby Cramirez » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:17 pm

Does anyone know why in the world we are letting Psychs drug american soldiers so much?

According to reports of the US government itself, there are more soldiers killing themselves (who are on drugs) than soldiers dying in battle. See Psychiatry's Covert Agenda (Documentary): http://youtu.be/WRNPKwsXrPw
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Re: Psych drugs and American Soldiers

Postby Riccola » Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:25 am

Its the issue thats always swept under the rug. Truth is war is highly traumatic, for most more then anything they could encounter or imagine. The vast majority end up with PTSD. The problem is we dont know how to treat PTSD on a mass scale very well. Nor do we follow up on the soldiers. First thing psychs do is reach for a prescription pad for a medication they think we cure the most presentable symptoms at the time of therapy. Then they hope that will be the end of it. Truth is its not nor enough. The meds dont always help and actual treatment is not given, so the suicides and the like pile up.

Its sad we dont help them further. But its another one of the heros in our society that fall victim to the short falls of psychiatry.
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Re: Psych drugs and American Soldiers

Postby Cheze2 » Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:04 pm

Ahh a CCHR video... I was a bit weary of all the drug label placements within it.
I find that with CCHR you have to sort of take it with a grain of salt. That's not to say that this isn't an issue. Just to keep in mind who is sponsoring the video and their motives as well.

I agree with Riccola on this one. We send these people to war and we don't know how to treat the psychological aftermath that occurs. All we know how to do is write a prescription and hope that helps.
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Re: Psych drugs and American Soldiers

Postby Cramirez » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:08 pm

Thanks, you guys. I agree that the issue has not been resolved. Obviously soldiers need more help after such traumatizing experiences that they deal with. But why are not all forms of help attempted with them before resorting to medication?

It is plan to see that the medication is not working, with more soldiers killing themselves with the use of the drugs! Why couldn't there be a place for soldiers after war similar to the Soteria Project (http://www.madinamerica.com/2012/03/the ... a-project/) ? Or even psychoanalysis before ever trying psychotropics? I find it appalling that we, in America, would resort to the easy fix for some of the most valuable people that we have.

Thanks Riccola for saying the truth "But its another one of the heros in our society that fall victim to the short falls of psychiatry." It makes me shudder to think about what you said there.
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Re: Psych drugs and American Soldiers

Postby Cheze2 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:42 am

I'm glad this came up again. I was listening to NPR today and they had a report on "Toxic leaders" and how the army is trying to combat them as there have been some studies stating that those who were prone to suicide were more than likely pushed over the edge due to their leaders.

I thought it was an interesting angle that doesn't look at drugging people and labeling them as having a psychiatric disability.

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Re: Psych drugs and American Soldiers

Postby Cramirez » Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:09 pm

Hi Cheze,

It may be true that there are so-called "Toxic-leaders" but if I am not mistaken there have been angry and explosive people in the military since time immemorial. Why are there so many suicides right now as opposed to 10 years ago?

The major factor that has changed is the drugging. Plus I won't trust a statement by the National Institute on Mental Health about "other reasons" than drugs for the deaths, because the (former) director of the NIMH himself was paid at least 1.3 Million from the Pharmaceuticals http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/2 ... 45934.html In fact he even spoke on NPR as well not mentioning drugging people and labeling them as a psychiatric liability. I wonder why he ignored the increasing amount of evidence... Could it have been.... maybe money?

Well, even the article on NPR on Toxic Leaders says "the evidence did not show that the soldiers' leaders caused them to commit suicide." On the other hand testimonials of almost suicided soldiers say it was because of the drugs they were taking and that when they stopped the drug the suicide thoughts stopped... I would ask anyone to look at this topic unbiased and see which argument is stronger.

Or you can always just read the warning / black box label which says the drugs cause suicidal thinking.
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Re: Psych drugs and American Soldiers

Postby P0ci » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:28 pm

Its not only American soldiers with the suicide rate. In fact the highest rate is found in Russia, heck and they aren't even in a war right now.
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Re: Psych drugs and American Soldiers

Postby Cramirez » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:22 pm

Hey P0ci, you're totally right.

I only said "American" because it is a topic for discussion. In fact, the documentary I mentioned in the begging of the post is now fully on Youtube: http://youtu.be/YmvuYTH5nU0?t=12m28s I linked it here starting at a point where you have a Russian talking about how drugs were pushed on him in the Soviet Army.

I didn't know the highest rate was in Russia, only that suicides were at its peak last year in the US. Where did you get the information about Russia having the highest rate, do you have a link?
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