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Re: Phony advocates for the mentally ill , how to diagnose e

Postby Cledwyn Bulbs » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:03 pm

The superabundance of phony advocates on this issue is symptomatic of the simple fact that most of the "care and concern" for "schizophrenics" is little more than a reaction formation against the hatred society really feels. When one understands this, the abuse, the torture and the marginalization of the mental patient does not seem so difficult to understand, nor should we be so puzzled at the existence of phony advocates like Jaffe and the other hypocrites (although even I would admit this probably doesn't apply to people like Bentall, although I would nevertheless class practically all of the mental health professionals who claim to be on our side as phony advocates).
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Re: Phony advocates for the mentally ill , how to diagnose e

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:56 pm

NAMI - Pharmaceutical Front Group on Youtube

Indiana NAMI Rep pushing mental illness screening, which will result in even more kids on drugs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6TapDyT-mI

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Re: Phony advocates for the mentally ill , how to diagnose e

Postby Copy_Cat » Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:01 am

If NAMI was truly a patient’s rights advocacy group as they purport to be, the question must be asked why they opposed legislation that forwards patients rights ?
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Re: Phony advocates for the mentally ill , how to diagnose e

Postby Cheze2 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:27 pm

The thing I am learning about NAMI is that it isn't necessarily there for people who are diagnosed with a psychiatric disability, it's really there more for the family members. Family members have a much different take on a person's rights vs the individuals themselves.
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Re: Phony advocates for the mentally ill , how to diagnose e

Postby Copy_Cat » Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:54 pm

Cheze2 wrote:The thing I am learning about NAMI is that it isn't necessarily there for people who are diagnosed with a psychiatric disability, it's really there more for the family members. Family members have a much different take on a person's rights vs the individuals themselves.


They are phoneys there too.
Families are not against safe drugs and warning labels.

In 2004, NAMI opposed the placement of "black box" warnings on antidepressants determined to cause suicide in under-18 year olds, and in 2006 opposed black box warnings on ADHD drugs causing heart attack, stroke and sudden death in children in 2006. Despite overwhelming evidence of serious adverse cardiac events and sudden deaths caused by ADHD drugs, in 2006 NAMI took the position that the “black box” warning on ADHD drugs was “premature.”

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?ti ... al_Illness
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Re: Phony advocates for the mentally ill , how to diagnose e

Postby 1013 victim » Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:16 am

Cheze2 wrote:The thing I am learning about NAMI is that it isn't necessarily there for people who are diagnosed with a psychiatric disability, it's really there more for the family members. Family members have a much different take on a person's rights vs the individuals themselves.


Families are just tools of the psych's and the mental health field as a whole. When they lock someone up against there will, that persons family wants that person out, they feed the psych's need to feel powerful and in control by asking him to release there loved-one, telling them that they will make sure that the person gets the care they need at home. It's not like jail where you get a sentence and you serve it out. It is even worse IMO because you have someone standing over you daily judging you and teasing your family with the possibility that you may be released today.

Most families have no idea that the mental health field will label people and take there rights away and make it harder for them to exist in mainstream society, feed them harmful meds, etc. Then when they start reading up on the meds they get concerned about withdrawals and such when they should have been concerned when this stuff was being prescribed. They should have questioned was dealing with the mental health field a need before things got out of hand.

Family members are worthless to the survivors of this stuff unless they have actually been through the mental health system themselves. Thus, being there for the family members is a worthless endeavor that is akin to being there for the mental health field.
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