Phony advocates for the mentally ill , how to diagnose em

The most widespread is of course NAMI , more on that here,


Health Advocacy Groups Take Drug Company Cash—Often Without Full Disclosures, Report Says
http://www.propublica.org/blog/item/health-advocacy-groups-take-drug-company-cashoften-without-full-disclosures

http://www.antidepressant-dangers-non-medical-alternative.eftisland.com/html/nami_and_chadd.html

How to spot them:

1. They take drug company cash

2. They never speak out about pharma doing dirty stuff like pushing there drugs with fraud.

2.5 They never speak out against defective drugs that hurt lots of people .

3. They never speak out about the mistreatment of the mentally ill behind locked doors.

4. They claim to be grassroots when they are not.

5. There star "advocates" who claim there kids are mentally ill all show symptoms of Münchausen syndrome by proxy !

Münchausen syndrome by proxy (MSbP or MBP) is a term that is used to describe a behavior pattern in which a caregiver deliberately exaggerates, fabricates, and/or induces physical, psychological, behavioral, and/or mental health problems in those who are in their care.

The name "Münchausen syndrome by proxy" is derived from Münchausen syndrome. People with Münchausen syndrome have a profound need to assume the sick role, and will exaggerate complaints, falsify tests, and/or self-inflict illnesses. MSbP perpetrators, by contrast, are willing to fulfill their need for positive attention by using their own child, thereby assuming the sick role by proxy.

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Add comments and help me list more symptoms of "phony advocate disorder" , we can also discuss treatments for this horrible disease !!!

There are very few true advocates for people who have fallen victim to the mental health field and they are too hard to find

1013 victim wrote:There are very few true advocates for people who have fallen victim to the mental health field and they are too hard to find

We are going to need to treat the ones suffering from Phony Advocates Disorder and get them to behave like real advocates for the mentally ill, here is the plan.

1st We Patent a dangerous chemical as a "treatment" for Phony Advocates Disorder ! .

2nd We will Invent fictitious trial results that prove the drug is effective in treating Phony Advocates Disorder .

3rd We bribe FDA officials into approving the drug as safe for everyone! (Even if it kills people.)

4th We create an emotional TV ads that shows phony advocates for the mentally ill start to actually care about the nasty abuse psychiatry dishes out in the name of treatment and speaking out against big pharma fraud !

5th We can bribe doctors with vacations, extravagant meals and "consulting fees" in order to get them to prescribe our drug to as many phony advocates as possible.

When the lawsuits roll in from the families of dead and sick phony advocates who took our drug, we can simply use a small portion of our windfall profits to settle out of court, admitting no guilt !

Copy_Cat wrote:

1013 victim wrote:There are very few true advocates for people who have fallen victim to the mental health field and they are too hard to find

We are going to need to treat the ones suffering from Phony Advocates Disorder and get them to behave like real advocates for the mentally ill, here is the plan.

1st We Patent a dangerous chemical as a "treatment" for Phony Advocates Disorder ! .

2nd We will Invent fictitious trial results that prove the drug is effective in treating Phony Advocates Disorder .

3rd We bribe FDA officials into approving the drug as safe for everyone! (Even if it kills people.)

4th We create an emotional TV ads that shows phony advocates for the mentally ill start to actually care about the nasty abuse psychiatry dishes out in the name of treatment and speaking out against big pharma fraud !

5th We can bribe doctors with vacations, extravagant meals and "consulting fees" in order to get them to prescribe our drug to as many phony advocates as possible.

When the lawsuits roll in from the families of dead and sick phony advocates who took our drug, we can simply use a small portion of our windfall profits to settle out of court, admitting no guilt !

Seems about right

1013 victim wrote:Seems about right

I think a taste of there own medicine is the best medicine for someone with Phony Advocate Disorder. I used the disease monger engine to make PAD a legit disease .

Why let the drug companies have all the fun?

YOU can invent diseases, too!

Click the "Generate" button on this web page to create
your very own disease, disorder or syndrome

http://www.naturalnews.com/disease-mongering-engine.asp

I think that practically everyone who isn't an ex-patient is a phony advocate. Perhaps Thomas Szasz was the best of the non-patient advocates, but even he dismissed mental patients as childish, useless parasites! Perhaps that is why our predicament is so bleak!

Take Bentall for example. He's a mental health professional. Now only the most naive would assume that as a mental health professional he doesn't sometimes have to equivocate on an issue and make concessions to appease the colleagues he works with day and day out, and this to me shows in his books, in his uncritical use of the language the oppressors specifically formulated to forge the fetters of the patients and dehumanize them; in his view, expressed in "Madness Explained", that us "paranoid schizophrenics" have a deficit in our thinking that makes us unable to understand the intentions of others.

Nonsense, it is just that us "paranoid schizophrenics" are more acutely sensitized to the darker potentialities of man's nature and the situations in which they flourish, yet there is no mention of this in Bentall's book. It is as if war never happened, as if people don't get into rings and go onto pitches to batter each other; as if all those people saying horrible malicious things to each other on youtube and other sites, mean well! He, like Whitaker, like Johnstone, like practically all of them, is ignorant of our perspectives.

Like someone mentioned. Either you have been through it or you are phony. The way the CCHR handles situations makes me think they are phony also. I am always careful when dealing with any special interest group

The CCHR are phony!! Wake up! They are directly paid off by the pharma companies to discredit real survivor/concerned/critical about psychiatry groups.
Notice how 'weird' and 'strange' the cchr beleifs are? aliens and such?
This is to directly discredit anti psychiatrists (or whatever u want to call it) Real Survivor Movements who want to voice their valid opinions, so whenever a survivor tries to speak out they are immediately thought of as 'oh, theyre scientologists, therye SO weird',
its a ploy, that big businesses do all the time.
So survivor movements have no voice and they continue with all their power profit and presige.

Devilock wrote:The CCHR are phony!! Wake up! They are directly paid off by the pharma companies to discredit real survivor/concerned/critical about psychiatry groups.
Notice how 'weird' and 'strange' the cchr beleifs are? aliens and such?
This is to directly discredit anti psychiatrists (or whatever u want to call it) Real Survivor Movements who want to voice their valid opinions, so whenever a survivor tries to speak out they are immediately thought of as 'oh, theyre scientologists, therye SO weird',
its a ploy, that big businesses do all the time.
So survivor movements have no voice and they continue with all their power profit and presige.

I disagree with "They are directly paid off by the pharma companies to discredit real survivor/concerned/critical about psychiatry groups."

That's totally wrong.

See:

CCHR Human Rights Awardee:Maryanne Godboldo www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGbwnaCnHWs