How about help instead of treatment ?

Psychiatry, its always called "help" WTF Why ?

noun
noun: help

1.
the action of helping someone to do something; assistance.
"I asked for help from my neighbors"
synonyms: assistance, aid, a helping hand, support, succor, advice, guidance; More

treat·ment
n.
1.
a. The act, manner, or method of handling or dealing with someone or something: "the right to equal treatment in the criminal and juvenile justice system" (Susan C. Ross).
b. Informal The usual methods of dealing with a given situation: gave the opposing team the treatment.
2.
a. Administration or application of remedies to a patient or for a disease or injury; medicinal or surgical management; therapy.
b. The substance or remedy so applied.

Does my topic make sense ?

I think I have heard the word treatment more than help in regards to psychiatry. It makes them seem more scientific in nature.

Copy_Cat wrote:Does my topic make sense ?

I am confused a bit by your post. The title is "how about help instead of treatment" but then you state that it's always called help in psychiatry?

Copy_Cat wrote:Psychiatry, its always called "help" WTF Why ?

I'm not sure which way you are going. perhaps it's just me?

Semantics.

I don't know why they don't call it *help.* I guess maybe like Cheez said, it makes them sound more "scientific."

You know iatrocapitalism talks about how a "medical condition" must be managed or "cured" and that the problem-solution paradigm is everywhere.

"Treatment" I guess, sounds more like you have a huge problem that must be managed.

"Help" just means "assistance" as you say.

IT is weird because it is like doublespeak. Normally, captialistic society doesn't try to take a preventative or helpful approach, but they wait until things are messed up before acting, so using the word "help" would seem to fit the "bandaid" approach that they use BUT I guess "treatment" sounds more official, more expansive, more interdisciplinary since "mental illness" has nothing to do with societal oppressions and paradigms but just you know "a broken brain."

I am going to PM you to a link for this lady who does a great blog about issues similar to this.

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And yes, I guess that they don't "help" either. Help would be the Soteria houses. I know.

I just remember people on those telephones in the hospital pleading with there families to help get them out and then being told by there families "you have to stay and get help". They would then yell, THIS IS NOT HELP ! followed by a detailed explanation of the abuse. Anyone who has experienced inpatient psychiatry for a few days has heard that play out 100 times.

First you have to identify the people who really need help or treatment. How are you going to do that when psych is not built off of facts.

The entire mental health system is indeed broken. It is nearly impossible to locate who has a mere broken heart, who has PTSD and someone who might have a legitimate set of problems. Social systems of any type-be they of control, transportation, medical, engineering, military..whatever involve many causal paths and many interactions with other systems.

In general, I feel like the big wigs in government, at the Think Tanks and in the Financial Markets that they have messed everyone up. They know this. They think that medicine is the way to "cure" everything. And if you look at the wasteful patterns of the West in general, even in the Eastern Bloc--take the Aural sea--the Soviets wanted that cotton, so they pumped out of that sea and left it dry and then decided to use pesticides and herbicides. They never tried to solve anything; they just kept pumping the water out. Now people have tuberculosis and the sea is a desert. Consumption. Production. Waste.


If you remember, I drew out an entire sociological profile on what has happened to the United States and if you read about capitalism, you know that greed is what drives so many things. What you term "Big Pharma" is people taking advantage of the medical profession out of greed, just as the securities firms have taken hold of weapons and spyware.

Children aren't nurtured because adults don't know how to nuture. Poisin exists in household chemicals, herbicides, nitrates from farming and even from the meds they give us. We use flouride for our teeth. The human brain cannot tolerate these assaults.

Entire generations are born filled with emptiness. Consumerism. Violence. Sexuality in a non healthy way. Spins on the truth. War-manufactured or not.

One lady on Icarus showed mannequins on the street-broken mannequins and she said that this is what captialism does.

Advertisers and the WASP society heads think that everything should be sanitary and clean and neat and in a little box. This is why the Native Americans were put in the reservation schools. This is why the school children are "boxed in" with IQ and LD tests. This is why people recieve medicine for issues. It's not just pharma profit. And even with feminism, they destroyed the family unit by telling women to go out there and have careers, but then started to make it "bad" to be a domestic. We are being attacked by all sides--patriarchy, patriarchy in guise of feminism, capitalism, greed and not acknowledging the larger picture.

The road back would take a major revolution in talk therapies, alternative uses of herbal medicine (alternative medicine) and a revolution in parenting in general.

This nightmare will take the entirety of us say "NO!" and going back to loving our children, using gentle discipline, reading actual real live books, homeschooling, organic foods and farming and a lobby which constantly pounds on the door of Capitol Hill. It will take more than "Boys and Girls Clubs of America" to make this go away. These bastards have us by the petard and they are soon to hoist it.

The people who eat organic food, parent gently and homeschool may have the only sane children in America when it is all over with.

This is a large system that is interwoven out of many systems with many layers. Copy_Cat is right to strike at the root.

Cate68 wrote:The entire mental health system is indeed broken. It is nearly impossible to locate who has a mere broken heart, who has PTSD and someone who might have a legitimate set of problems. Social systems of any type-be they of control, transportation, medical, engineering, military..whatever involve many causal paths and many interactions with other systems.

In general, I feel like the big wigs in government, at the Think Tanks and in the Financial Markets that they have messed everyone up. They know this. They think that medicine is the way to "cure" everything. And if you look at the wasteful patterns of the West in general, even in the Eastern Bloc--take the Aural sea--the Soviets wanted that cotton, so they pumped out of that sea and left it dry and then decided to use pesticides and herbicides. They never tried to solve anything; they just kept pumping the water out. Now people have tuberculosis and the sea is a desert. Consumption. Production. Waste.


If you remember, I drew out an entire sociological profile on what has happened to the United States and if you read about capitalism, you know that greed is what drives so many things. What you term "Big Pharma" is people taking advantage of the medical profession out of greed, just as the securities firms have taken hold of weapons and spyware.

Children aren't nurtured because adults don't know how to nuture. Poisin exists in household chemicals, herbicides, nitrates from farming and even from the meds they give us. We use flouride for our teeth. The human brain cannot tolerate these assaults.

Entire generations are born filled with emptiness. Consumerism. Violence. Sexuality in a non healthy way. Spins on the truth. War-manufactured or not.

One lady on Icarus showed mannequins on the street-broken mannequins and she said that this is what captialism does.

Advertisers and the WASP society heads think that everything should be sanitary and clean and neat and in a little box. This is why the Native Americans were put in the reservation schools. This is why the school children are "boxed in" with IQ and LD tests. This is why people recieve medicine for issues. It's not just pharma profit. And even with feminism, they destroyed the family unit by telling women to go out there and have careers, but then started to make it "bad" to be a domestic. We are being attacked by all sides--patriarchy, patriarchy in guise of feminism, capitalism, greed and not acknowledging the larger picture.

The road back would take a major revolution in talk therapies, alternative uses of herbal medicine (alternative medicine) and a revolution in parenting in general.

This nightmare will take the entirety of us say "NO!" and going back to loving our children, using gentle discipline, reading actual real live books, homeschooling, organic foods and farming and a lobby which constantly pounds on the door of Capitol Hill. It will take more than "Boys and Girls Clubs of America" to make this go away. These bastards have us by the petard and they are soon to hoist it.

The people who eat organic food, parent gently and homeschool may have the only sane children in America when it is all over with.

This is a large system that is interwoven out of many systems with many layers. Copy_Cat is right to strike at the root.

Good post I largely agree

Thank you. Notice if you would that I confused two posts! LOL!

Cate68 wrote:T This is why the school children are "boxed in" with IQ and LD tests. This is why people recieve medicine for issues. It's not just pharma profit. And even with feminism, they destroyed the family unit by telling women to go out there and have careers, but then started to make it "bad" to be a domestic. We are being attacked by all sides--patriarchy, patriarchy in guise of feminism, capitalism, greed and not acknowledging the larger picture.


This is a large system that is interwoven out of many systems with many layers. Copy_Cat is right to strike at the root.

"psychiatry as a tool of social control"


Moreover, the pressure for medicalization also comes from society itself. Feminists, who once opposed state intervention as oppressive and patriarchal, now demand more coercive and intrusive measures to deal with child abuse and domestic violence. According to Richard Gosden, the use of psychiatry as a tool of social control is becoming obvious in preventive medicine programmes for various mental diseases.These programmes are intended to identify children and young people with divergent behavioral patterns and thinking and send them to treatment before their supposed mental diseases develop.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-psychiatry#Tool_of_social_control

Psychiatry is everywhere, look at how they turned schools into behavioral health clinics.

Parents are bombarded with psychiatry's insidious psycho-education at every turn. T.V , magazines, newspapers all full of mental health propaganda posing as medical fact with pictures of brain scans ect ect.

Every parent wants a heathy child right ?

50 years ago, society had eccentrics. Look at the 1960s ! Now, thanks to the efforts of psychiatrists, we have people with “mental disorders” and the number of disorders grows each year. People who worry about state surveillance are labelled “Paranoid”, those who argue passionately against injustice and have a head full of facts and figures are “Deluded” and suffering from “Thought Disorder” and those full of dreams and visions of a better world are “Psychotic”.

Meanwhile, kids who prefer to explore their surroundings and chatter (as thousands of years of evolution prepared them to do) instead of sitting still listening to teachers are labelled as “suffering from ADHD” and drugged.

Where are the positive results from the 100s of billions of dollars a year spent on all this mental health bullsh6t ????!!!!!!


Now we have school shootings, a prescription drug addiction epidemic, The USA has the worst academic scores of any 1st world nation...


2012 The United States spends $113 billion on mental health treatment.

$113,000,000,000 got us what ?

$113,000,000,000 !!!

There were about 643,000 sheltered and unsheltered homeless persons nationwide in January 2009. About two-thirds of those stayed in emergency shelters or used transitional housing programs, with the remaining living on the street in abandoned buildings or other areas not meant for human habitation

113,000,000,000 divided by 643,000 = $175, 783

$175, 783 !!! All the homeless get a brand new home and a new car ! That's ######6 help !!!

That's just year one with that money, what shall we fix next when we stop giving the shrink industry 113 billion ?

Who can we help next instead of "treat" for 113 billion dollars ?

Copy_Cat wrote:

Cate68 wrote:T This is why the school children are "boxed in" with IQ and LD tests. This is why people recieve medicine for issues. It's not just pharma profit. And even with feminism, they destroyed the family unit by telling women to go out there and have careers, but then started to make it "bad" to be a domestic. We are being attacked by all sides--patriarchy, patriarchy in guise of feminism, capitalism, greed and not acknowledging the larger picture.


This is a large system that is interwoven out of many systems with many layers. Copy_Cat is right to strike at the root.

"psychiatry as a tool of social control"


Moreover, the pressure for medicalization also comes from society itself. Feminists, who once opposed state intervention as oppressive and patriarchal, now demand more coercive and intrusive measures to deal with child abuse and domestic violence. According to Richard Gosden, the use of psychiatry as a tool of social control is becoming obvious in preventive medicine programmes for various mental diseases.These programmes are intended to identify children and young people with divergent behavioral patterns and thinking and send them to treatment before their supposed mental diseases develop.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-psychiatry#Tool_of_social_control

Psychiatry is everywhere, look at how they turned schools into behavioral health clinics.

Parents are bombarded with psychiatry's insidious psycho-education at every turn. T.V , magazines, newspapers all full of mental health propaganda posing as medical fact with pictures of brain scans ect ect.

Every parent wants a heathy child right ?

50 years ago, society had eccentrics. Look at the 1960s ! Now, thanks to the efforts of psychiatrists, we have people with “mental disorders” and the number of disorders grows each year. People who worry about state surveillance are labelled “Paranoid”, those who argue passionately against injustice and have a head full of facts and figures are “Deluded” and suffering from “Thought Disorder” and those full of dreams and visions of a better world are “Psychotic”.

Meanwhile, kids who prefer to explore their surroundings and chatter (as thousands of years of evolution prepared them to do) instead of sitting still listening to teachers are labelled as “suffering from ADHD” and drugged.

Where are the positive results from the 100s of billions of dollars a year spent on all this mental health bullsh6t ????!!!!!!


Now we have school shootings, a prescription drug addiction epidemic, The USA has the worst academic scores of any 1st world nation...


2012 The United States spends $113 billion on mental health treatment.

$113,000,000,000 got us what ?

$113,000,000,000 !!!

There were about 643,000 sheltered and unsheltered homeless persons nationwide in January 2009. About two-thirds of those stayed in emergency shelters or used transitional housing programs, with the remaining living on the street in abandoned buildings or other areas not meant for human habitation

113,000,000,000 divided by 643,000 = $175, 783

$175, 783 !!! All the homeless get a brand new home and a new car ! That's ######6 help !!!

That's just year one with that money, what shall we fix next when we stop giving the shrink industry 113 billion ?

Who can we help next instead of "treat" for 113 billion dollars ?

$113,000,000,000 on opinions