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Teen Suicide Prevention Program: Screening for Mental Health

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Teen Suicide Prevention Program: Screening for Mental Health

Postby Copy_Cat » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:03 pm

For example, the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration noted that in 2009 two million children between the ages of 12 and 17, or 8.1 percent of the population, had a major depressive episode.

Major depressive episode = Bummed out sad for 2 weeks

Big pharma will stop at nothing to push there pills !


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Have any readers of this post ever been screened in school ?
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Postby starbright333 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:50 pm

No..I wasnt,but I was in gradeschool in the 1970's.If you were popping pills,it was stuff you were getting off your classmates!But seriously,how can being depressed for awks be a major depressive state worthy of a script to a heavy duty medication?The justification to get society on meds is out of control,then everyone wonders where the drug epidemic is coming from or starting at...At the greed of the pharmaseuticaql companies and the perks everyone involved gets.Some schools by me I heard actually were supposedly getting funded in they reached a quota.My nephew is about 17 now,and does excellent in school.When he was about in the 2nd grade,the school he was going to at the time was diagnosing many many children in school,including him,with unfounded ADD,and they were harrassing my brother to get his son on adderall.My brother refused,took him out of that school,and never had any other teacher suggest again he had attention issues or behaviour issues.I think back,and believe it was all a ploy from this school so they could meet their quota and get funding and perks.Worse yet..young adults and childrens brains process info and react to meds differently then adults..and those potent meds could actually cause them to cycle..or have violent episodes..or even commit suicide..
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Postby Copy_Cat » Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:22 pm

Thanks starbright333, I know drugging for ADHD and the other diagnosises has alot to do with drug abuse in youth, I have talked to them. The proof is out there but no big pharma or even govt money will be used for any study to investigate the link between child drugging by psychiatry and future substance addiction problems , that's for sure.


Everyone check out at what I just found, that I wasn't even looking for, by searching "teen suicide questionnaire".

Hospitalization:
Research tells us that individuals have significantly increased suicide risks in the week following hospitalization (102 times higher for men and 246 times higher for women). Individuals with affective disorders have a risk of suicide significantly higher throughout their hospitalization and upon release. Individuals whose lengths of stay were shorter than the median were significantly more likely to commit suicide. (2005)


That is from this website http://www.scribd.com/doc/34188765/Youth-Suicide-Risk-Assessment-v2

Does that say psychiatric lock up and forcing drugging makes people more suicidal ?

I found some information online that says it does,

It is well documented that many people experience involuntary psychiatric treatment as an assault. Some describe it as similar to rape where the assault strikes to the core of your body, mind and soul. As with sexual assaults, our mental health system needs to respect the very basic human requirement at such times that ―No means ―No. It is also well documented that many suicidal people are struggling with complex personal histories of trauma. For these people, involuntary psychiatric treatment further traumatizes them, often worsening or indeed sometimes triggering suicidal feelings. More generally, if we understand suicidality as a crisis of the self –i.e. rather than the consequence of some ―mental illness (see below) –then it simply does not make sense to further attack an already fragile sense of self. It is hard to imagine anything less helpful for the suicidal person than to be assaulted by those you seek help from at a time of such crisis.

The medical argument for involuntary psychiatric treatment

The medical argument offered in an attempt to justify involuntary psychiatric treatment of the suicidal also does not stand up to scrutiny...


Read more http://www.communitylaw.org.au/mhlc/cb_pages/images/MHLC-Forum-Paper%20David%20Webb.pdf

I get the above, I always felt assaulted by inpatient psychiatry with its locked doors and other "safety" measures like the coerced naked strip search standing barefoot on the dirty germ ridden hospital floor during intake. My run ins with inpatient psychiatry were a result of seeking help for anxiety attacks and the endless insomnia that came with them not suicidal tendencies. I always hated being subjected to the universal suicide precautions imposed on everyone in the hospital as I walked around with no shoe laces. I even asked once if they could put suicidal people someplace else and treat the rest of us like humans, this was before I learned psychiatry is a universal abuser and has no concern whatsoever for basic human rights or how anyone feels about their treatment.

I totally understand why individuals would have significantly increased suicide risks in the week following hospitalization, they just learned what "help" from psychiatry really means and feel shocked, angry and hopeless by the let down combined with the suicidal side effects of the brain disabling medications no doubt.

The first link will take you to the "suicide questionnaire" as well if anyone wants to look at the questions that are almost like entrapment if answered honestly by any bummed out person.

I still want to hear from anyone who has been "screened" in school for mental illness.
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Postby Cheze2 » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:22 am

What are we considering being "screened"?

I was first diagnosed with a mental illness at 13 after an inpatient admission due to a suicide attempt.

I will say however that perhaps the "major depression" criteria should be altered for teenagers. What teenager hasn't been depressed for at least 2 weeks?
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Re: Teen Suicide Prevention Program: Screening for Mental He

Postby Copy_Cat » Thu Oct 03, 2013 3:52 am

Cheze2 wrote:What are we considering being "screened"?


Giving kids these tests
http://www.scribd.com/doc/34188765/Youth-Suicide-Risk-Assessment-v2

http://www.freementalhealthscreening.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/childadolescentpacketpdf.pdf

The youngster is sat down and asked introverting questions such as:

Has there been a time when nothing was fun for you and you just weren't interested in anything?
Has there been a time when you felt you couldn't do anything well or that you weren't as good-looking or as smart as other people?
How often did your parents get annoyed or upset with you because of the way you were feeling or acting?
Have you often felt very nervous when you've had to do things in front of people?
Have you often worried a lot before you were going to play a sport or game or do some other activity?
Have you tried to kill yourself in the last year?
Are you still thinking of killing yourself?
Have you thought seriously about killing yourself?
Have you often thought about killing yourself??
Have you ever tried to kill yourself?

Based on the answers the child gives to the above questions he is then shuffled off to a "clinician", who ponders the bogus label to use.

The "clinician" summarizes his report and comes up with an "impairment score".

Based on how the child answered the "suicide survey", and which label the clinician conjured up and how the child did on his "impairment score" the child is then sent off for "treatment".

What treatment?
Drugs. A survey of recently trained child psychiatrists found the treatment for 9 out of 10 children consisted of drugging. (Journal of the American Academy of Child Adolescent Psychiatry 2002)

post made with info and copy paste from this website http://www.psychsearch.net/teenscreen.html

LOOK AT THOSE QUESTIONAIRS , WHAT A PRIVACY INVASION for the kid and the family !
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Re: Teen Suicide Prevention Program: Screening for Mental He

Postby Cheze2 » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:16 pm

Copy_Cat wrote:Giving kids these tests

I have been given tests with similar questions while hospitalized when I was a teenager, but these are similar to other mental health tests that they give adults to help make diagnoses. My biggest objection would be to giving the teenager these types of tests in school. That sounds too similar to "teen screen."
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