MENTAL ILLNESS IS TOO COMPLEX...

Mental illness is too complex, what do I mean...? Mental illness is so complex that only supposed mental health professionals can understand what's going on and supposedly only they can treat -ALL the different types of mental illness....
When they were shown a simpler way to -HELP- human beings with mental illness they refused to look at the research which might have helped and or solved mental illness.... -YOU- are perfect guinea pigs that will always be used as guinea pigs, a perfect cash cow that keeps on giving....

KINDNESSTHERAPY wrote:-YOU- are perfect guinea pigs that will always be used as guinea pigs, a perfect cash cow that keeps on giving....

Not me, I did the the 12 Steps Of Anti psychiatry !

The 12 Steps Of Anti psychiatry

RARELY HAVE we seen a person who has thoroughly followed the psychiatric path and recovered. Those who do recover are usually people who have recognized Psychiatry as a dangerous atheist cult, and will not give themselves completely to Psychiatry’s fanatical program. The Psychiatry Cult is constituted primarily of men and women of the APA who are constitutionally incapable of being honest with anyone… including themselves .

We are not at fault; WE were screwed the second we sat on the leather couch and then took those first pills. We were systematically indoctrinated into believing that we have a biologically based brain defect with no test or procedure to prove this. Psychiatrists should be held accountable for the behavior that has ruined so many lives. Many APA members suffer from grave emotional and mental disorders. The psychiatric program requires that they believe emotional problems are biological brain defects that people can never recover from and they must take dangerous pills for the rest of there lives. Most of the people who quit Psychiatry have recovered in large part, due to their self-determination and ability to think and act rationally. Our stories disclose in a general way what We used to be like, what happened, and what We are like now.

If You have decided You want to leave Psychiatry and are willing to go to any lengths to do it – then You are ready to take certain steps.

At some of these We were delighted. We were sure that We had found a more sound and reasonable way. With all of the earnestness at our command, We encourage You to be resolute and confident from the very start. Some of Us have tried to hold on to Our old Psychiatric ideas and the result was nil until We let go absolutely. Remember that WE deal with Psychiatry – cunning, baffling and very dishonest! Continuing the mental masturbation was too much for Us.

May You trust and believe in Yourself now! Belief in psychiatric fraud availed Us nothing. We stood at the turning point. We learned to protect and care for Ourselves with complete Self-acceptance. Here are the steps We took which are encouraged as a course of action to escape the Psychiatric mind trap…

1. We decided We were not “biologically defective” – that Our lives had become dominated by Psychiatry.

2. Came to understand that we never had a biological brain defect as psychiatric fundamentalists had led us to believe.

3. Made a decision to turn and walk away from Psychiatry forever.

4. Made a scorching and fearless indictment against Psychiatry as an organization.

5. Admitted to Ourselves and another Human Being that we had been ambushed into joining an atheist cult called psychiatry .

6. Were entirely ready to relieve ourselves of the self-defeating bullsh^t and lies we were taught by Psychiatry.

7. Familiarized Ourselves with cult indoctrination tactics in order that we may never fall into a similar trap again.

8. Made a list of all mental health workers who had harmed us, and became willing to confront them all.

9. Called such people on their bullsh^t whenever possible, except when to do so would physically injure them or others really bad.

10. Continued to indict Psychiatry and when we were wronged promptly expressed our disapproval of it.

11. Sought scientific empirical evidence that could help us to defeat there bullsh^t and lies; focusing on truth as the Power to carry that out.

12. Having been awakened from the Psychiatric nightmare as a result of these steps, We tried to carry this message to other victims of Psychiatry, so that everyone might know the truth about the Psychiatric cult and big pharma’s lies.

Copy_Cat, a lot of your comment is true and was proven to me by the only -TWO- human beings out of thousands who were successful in true recovery of mental illness. That being said -YOU- have to realize that 98% of human beings with serious mental illness are doomed to a hell on earth until they die by whatever means they are forced to do to escape their -HELL ON EARTH-....

Ps, may all these supposed mental health professionals and bureaucrats etc. burn in -HELL- for their self serving bull sh.. ....

KINDNESSTHERAPY wrote:Mental illness is so complex that only supposed mental health professionals can understand what's going on and supposedly only they can treat -ALL the different types of mental illness

This is simply not true. Only the PERSON can understand what is going on for them and they can then decide for themselves what the best path for "treatment" is.

Sure some mental health professionals may not believe this yet, but this is the way that the mental health field is moving towards.

-Cheze2- etc., since I have always said that anybody with mental illness is far more knowledge that I am, your opinion outweighs mine. That being said, maybe your opinion counts for all the -A- types of human beings that live with some type of mental illness etc.... The vast majority of human beings with serious mental illness etc. are not -A- types that fight for themselves but are human beings that will do anything that supposed mental health professionals tell them to do. Caregivers and family members etc. are only listening too supposed mental health professionals etc., because most of them are lemmings and are afraid that they might do more harm because they are scared of mental illness...

I have seen many people cope and then I have seen people be destroyed. This I will have to process.

There was a couple who both died of overdoses on pain killers. They were "compliant." They were both MENSA but they had problems with life skills. The "system" failed them.

There was a girl I knew who met a tragic end.

There is another lady I know who is very intelligent but feels very bad about herself and her PTSD overwhelms her.
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The others I know do pretty well. One lady works at an apparel shop and then the lady I work with has a car and has worked here where I work for about 7 years. Another lady I know is a school teacher-She is creative, healthy and a great friend. She has a full life and has great dogs. She works volunteer wise with CARA. One of this lady's friends is a waitress and also a teaching assistant who has an active dating life and a good lifestyle. She also does CARA. Then another lady I know works full time as a secretary at a medical college.


1. They are mainly deeply spiritual people-either within themselves or God as they understand God
2. They have a life and pursue life.
3. They have friends and they don't isolate.
4. They stay active.
5. They don't give up and they take care of themselves.
6. They all had to stand up to their traumas and deal with the traumas.

This stuff simply does not exist to me, but I am not against someone who thinks medicine can help them change there behavior and alter there mind. Weed, cocaine, etc. changes moods and alters mind-sets but the system is against that stuff. On the other hand, here is a secret if when they do your bloodwork they see a drug they can't commit you for mentally illness, they will just blame it on the drug because all they are looking for is something to blame your behavior on, a set of behavior that seems strange. The mental health field is clearly about money which gives people power and control.

There is nothing complex about the mental health field. The people who have mental diseases that are fact can not be helped by medicine and group activities. They cant cure down syndrome. Matter of fact, they can't help any of the people that are special needs or mentally retarded. That is the most telling of facts against this stuff.

I can see where you would think that none of this stuff is real, but some of it is, and support services do help people with developmental disorders. I know a developmentally disabled person whose parents got him a little house and he walks to work, has a girlfriend and he is very happy. So, yes, there is a lot of discrimination and so much of it is about profit, but there are some people and situations that can be assisted through empowerment.

First thing most psychiatric institutions do is dis-empower the person. Make them feel defective or sick. Once that has been mastered the dependency begins. A dependent patient will believe or do anything a psychiatrist says or does which ultimately means major profit. No main steam psychiatrist ever takes into consideration what you say, they may pretend to listen, but they will always view what you say as a byproduct of an over reaction to something or a delusion.

I do agree mental illness can be very complex considering the nature of the mind but behind closed doors a psychiatrist views at as something simple, a few imbalances requiring medication.


Im interested in what research you believe is pointing in the right direction.

Cate68 wrote:I can see where you would think that none of this stuff is real, but some of it is, and support services do help people with developmental disorders. I know a developmentally disabled person whose parents got him a little house and he walks to work, has a girlfriend and he is very happy. So, yes, there is a lot of discrimination and so much of it is about profit, but there are some people and situations that can be assisted through empowerment.

There are no facts to justify any of this stuff. They are simply giving names to behaviors and trying to alter behaviors and thoughts. There are plenty of others ways to do that which don't include drugging and group talks. My point remains this stuff is not needed. If you want to smoke some weed, snort some cocaine, or whatever to feel like tackling the world go do it, it is all less harmful than what these people do to you. The whole thing about support services I disagree with also. Giving someone free stuff or cheap stuff is not the end all be all. I know people that are on disability now, they get monthly checks and drugs that they don't need which they in turn sell on the black market, to them they are hustling a system that is in there business unnecessarily. You don't need the government to be your support service, or big pharm to be your support service, because while they are giving you free housing, a monthly check, etc. they are also using you as a guinea pig for there drugs and other degrading practices.