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MENTAL ILLNESS IS TOO COMPLEX...

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Re: MENTAL ILLNESS IS TOO COMPLEX...

Postby Copy_Cat » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:07 pm

Cate68 wrote:Explain why all of these years, my ability to wake up in the morning and get moving, my good IQ in language and my TOTAL inability to do math, my past promiscuities, my super bad choices, my wreck, my almost affair.......how these weren't the product of some demented mind...........be it from trauma, bad parenting, a learning disability of some sort......................they have to be caused by SOMETHING.

Explain to me why my son has difficulty waking up in the morning and why he has a huge spatial IQ but very low reading IQ. Explain why he gets kicked out of churches.

Explain why my super brilliant husband has to move like molasses and read books over and over and over yet still can tell you about Military History and put together a computer from the side of the road and with parts from Circut City and yet cannot focus on the most elementary of things............

Explain my siblings love of alcohol and the struggle they had in becoming sober...............


HOW?!


Cause the world is better with people like that, einstien tesla ...

The world is boring and makes many people nuts, prolonged stress of boring school, 9-5 time clocks water cooler politics, 2 weeks off a year to goto florida and it rains, 1.7 kids, t.v sit coms, available food 24/7 ( people hunt fish camp out for recreation just to get back to 150 years ago) much of modern strip mall narcissistic consumerism life is now stressful complicated struggle that's not helped by the survival instincts we came with.

Not saying everything sucks but so many people don't fit the good grades get up early bird college then 9-5 till 65 years old then retire play golf wile wife gosspis by 55 and over community pool model of how life is done.

Its #######4 that everyone who doesn't fit the mold is mentally ill somehow. Your brains diseased...

#######4.
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Re: MENTAL ILLNESS IS TOO COMPLEX...

Postby 1013 victim » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:29 am

Cate68 wrote:Explain why all of these years, my ability to wake up in the morning and get moving, my good IQ in language and my TOTAL inability to do math, my past promiscuities, my super bad choices, my wreck, my almost affair.......how these weren't the product of some demented mind...........be it from trauma, bad parenting, a learning disability of some sort......................they have to be caused by SOMETHING.

Explain to me why my son has difficulty waking up in the morning and why he has a huge spatial IQ but very low reading IQ. Explain why he gets kicked out of churches.

Explain why my super brilliant husband has to move like molasses and read books over and over and over yet still can tell you about Military History and put together a computer from the side of the road and with parts from Circut City and yet cannot focus on the most elementary of things............

Explain my siblings love of alcohol and the struggle they had in becoming sober...............


HOW?!


What does any of that stuff have to do with mental illness? There was a time that people simply said he is a little blue he doesn't feel like getting out the bed today. Now they want to label it a mental illness. There was a time that some parents would whip your butt until you got out the bed now they want to give you a pill. Your bad judgement in certain situations does not mean you are incapable of making good decisions. I am sure you have made your share of good ones. If someone is incapable of making good decisions that may be a problem, other than that you are just the victim of someone else's judgement.

The mental health field is not about facts, it is about judgement, opinions, and most importantly money, power, and control.
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Re: MENTAL ILLNESS IS TOO COMPLEX...

Postby identity_disturbed » Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:12 am

I think psychiatry has its merits.. however, I feel that public health psychiatrists in the majority, are very poor.

By poor, I mean: untalented, in it for the wrong reasons, lacking creativity, mechanical..

I have seen too many psychiatrists, given my history of atypical depression.. for mind, there have been numerous red flags or instances, alluding to my suffering some sort of bipolarity..

From ages 18-25, not one of these professionals uttered the word, "hypomania", even in passing, in any context..
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Re: MENTAL ILLNESS IS TOO COMPLEX...

Postby 1013 victim » Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:42 pm

Something based in opinions and judgements that totally ignores facts has no merit to beings looking to progress and make the world better.
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Re: MENTAL ILLNESS IS TOO COMPLEX...

Postby Cate68 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:39 pm

Those are good points, thank you.
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Re: MENTAL ILLNESS IS TOO COMPLEX...

Postby Cheze2 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:38 pm

Sorry everyone, I have to lock this thread for a bit as it is generating a lot of spam at the moment. I will re open it later.
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Re: MENTAL ILLNESS IS TOO COMPLEX...

Postby Cheze2 » Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:41 pm

Sorry everyone for the delay. Hopefully everything is good now. :)
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Re: MENTAL ILLNESS IS TOO COMPLEX...

Postby 1013 victim » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:51 pm

Psych is not complex it is dangerous to allow peoples opinions and judgements to count too much. You have to have some facts and psych is short on facts. Thus, you take the chance of allowing deep-rooted corruption
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Re: MENTAL ILLNESS IS TOO COMPLEX...

Postby KINDNESSTHERAPY » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:38 pm

-1013 victim- etc. etc. etc.... My orginal post made the comment that -Mental Illness Is Too Complex-, most comments has proven my point. As long as YOU make and accept mental illness as being so complex that only supposed mental health professionals can administer treatment, then most of YOU are doomed....
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Re: MENTAL ILLNESS IS TOO COMPLEX...

Postby 1013 victim » Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:02 pm

KINDNESSTHERAPY wrote:-1013 victim- etc. etc. etc.... My orginal post made the comment that -Mental Illness Is Too Complex-, most comments has proven my point. As long as YOU make and accept mental illness as being so complex that only supposed mental health professionals can administer treatment, then most of YOU are doomed....


I agree with this but I have never saw it as complex as I continue to post. There is nothing complex about someone else's opinions and judgements. I don't care how many people they can get to back them because pack of dogs are more dangerous than just one dog because they give each other confidence and empower one another. Simply put, once again until they can come with facts to substantiate there opinions they are more harmful than helpful. You need facts as a guide in order to progress.
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