Peer Support Warm line/crisis center?

-1013victim- YOU are new to this forum and seem to be very dangerous with your comments.....

Doesn't make sense to me that you would think causing self injury is a way to cope with pain. Causing more pain is the way to cope with pain? I don't get it. As for the person that says I am new here and dangerous with my comments, that is your opinion. I am not necessarily interested in others opinions if the facts do not substantiate them. That is what psychiatry and mental health field is built off of unsubstantiated opinions. I am anti-psychiatry. This stuff is full of myths and opinions that they put off on weak people as facts.

I was just trying to help but I can't help someone that thinks self injury is a way of coping with pain. Hope u get the help u need

'If the person thinks 'self injury is a way to take away pain', sounds a bit closed minded, some ppl, myself included used to self harm and this was because I didn't know what else to do, I was so full of pain from the abuse I was receiving and I didn't know who to tell and how to get away from it, this was when I was a teenager, when I self injured, it made me feel better ,like the pain was coming out.
When we say we don't like psychiatry, it is these attitudes that we don't like either. Lots of ppl suffer distress and they don't deserve to be treated as sub human/abused just because of it, they deserve compassion and care.

I agree everyone deserves compassion and they deserve someone that will atleast try to understand them, but that is not what psychiatry and the mental health field does. They simply label you then feed you a bunch of harmful meds with brutal side effects. The most harmful thing about the labeling process is how you become a statistic rather than a individual. So, don't ever think what they are trying to do is understand you as a individual.

You fit the criteria of someone that should be involuntarily committed because you say that you are thinking of causing self injury. On the other hand, someone that has neither said or committed a act that shows they are a threat to themselves or others can be forced into this category by psychiatry, judges, and the mental health field because this stuff is not based off of facts. They can make me fit with you and we are nothing alike. That is why it is hard for me to subscribe to this stuff. Labeling is harmful to everyone not just the person being labelled.

Everyone is hurt when you decide to not control your actions and play into this stuff. If you need help go get it but don't try to act like there are facts that support reasons for people thinking about or committing acts of self injury. This is just part of there labeling process.

1013 victim wrote:This is just part of there labeling process.

Which you too have fallen into. It is the medical model's stance that people who are thinking about self injury should be involuntarily committed and need hospitalization. If we here on this board are truly anti-psychiatry we should be promoting any sort of relief that THE PERSON finds helpful. For me, following the medical model's stance of hospitalization for these feelings would not be helpful. This is why I reached out to a peer warm line as an alternative.

This board should not be about a "healthy people" vs "unhealthy people." True anti psychiatry stances would see us all as just people regardless of what we're going through.

Cheze2 wrote:

1013 victim wrote:This is just part of there labeling process.

Which you too have fallen into. It is the medical model's stance that people who are thinking about self injury should be involuntarily committed and need hospitalization. If we here on this board are truly anti-psychiatry we should be promoting any sort of relief that THE PERSON finds helpful. For me, following the medical model's stance of hospitalization for these feelings would not be helpful. This is why I reached out to a peer warm line as an alternative.

This board should not be about a "healthy people" vs "unhealthy people." True anti psychiatry stances would see us all as just people regardless of what we're going through.

I agree with you and I thank you for correcting me. I do not wish that you would be committed or anyone else be committed because it is a very serious issue to take away peoples rights and liberties such as free movement. I do not care what they say it is akin to incarceration. On the other hand, I am simply trying to make clear that there was a time in history where people did not believe in any of this mental health stuff. Modern society introduced this stuff and now everything and everyone gets labelled. My whole point is you are hurting by labeling yourself as a person with the potential to self-injure as a means of coping. You give reasons why people self injure. I reject them as excuses, because once again I do not believe that behavior that can be changed should be labelled as a mental illness. You don't need medicine or anything else the mental health field would offer to not self injure. All you need is not to engage in such behavior find other coping mechanisms.

Finally, I applaud you in seeking support in other avenues other than the mythical mental health system. Just don't lend credence to them by labeling yourself as someone with the potential to do self harm, because that gives them a way into your life to harm you and us.

1013 victim wrote:I do not believe that behavior that can be changed should be labelled as a mental illness. You don't need medicine or anything else the mental health field would offer to not self injure.

Just so that we're clear, self injury is not a mental health diagnosis. There is not medication directly made for people who self injure. The mental health field does help people to learn coping skills to deal with feelings of wanting to harm oneself as do many other resources.

I also appreciate your compliment.

We have to watch out that big pharma doesn't take control of the peer movement like they have done with NAMI. They will try, just watch.

Copy_Cat wrote:We have to watch out that big pharma doesn't take control of the peer movement like they have done with NAMI. They will try, just watch.

They already are. I got a msg on facebook yesterday from mindfreedom international, saying that the 'peer movement' is not addressing forced drugging, that ppl had been ringing up complaining about this, thought they were supposed to be against this stuff?...among other thing they said some ppl had been saing 'comfort calls' the name and the practice of, is patronizing. I not quite sure on this last bit, I havnt really read allot about comfort calls, it sounds ok, but maybe is not going as planned or something? Check it out on mindfreedom facebook page.

Devilock wrote:

Copy_Cat wrote:We have to watch out that big pharma doesn't take control of the peer movement like they have done with NAMI. They will try, just watch.

They already are. I got a msg on facebook yesterday from mindfreedom international, saying that the 'peer movement' is not addressing forced drugging, that ppl had been ringing up complaining about this, thought they were supposed to be against this stuff?...among other thing they said some ppl had been saing 'comfort calls' the name and the practice of, is patronizing. I not quite sure on this last bit, I havnt really read allot about comfort calls, it sounds ok, but maybe is not going as planned or something? Check it out on mindfreedom facebook page.

I don't have facebook,

Check this out,

Federal Medicaid rules require that the state approve the certification process. The certification allows individuals to work within a certified agency to provide peer services according to very specific rules and regulations in order to enhance the recovery and resiliency of others with Severe Emotional Disorders, Severe Mental Illness and/or chronic substance abuse. Persons who have been able to “live recovery and resiliency” can help others within the frame work of agency’s CCSS or ACT programs develop the skills and attitudes they need to enhance their resiliency and recovery. The addition of the Peer Support Workers Certification process is a powerful tool that includes the peer experience as part of the public behavioral health system.
http://www.bhc.state.nm.us/BHConsumers/OCACertPeerSpecialistTraining.html
"the state approve the certification process"
"within the frame work..."
"skills and attitudes..."

I have done 5 minutes of research but I can read between the lines of mental health propaganda, when they use phrases like that its not good.

The research continues....
http://www.google.com/search?q=+peer+su ... tification


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http://www.bing.com/search?q=mental+health+peer+support+training+certification

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"public behavioral health system"

" behavioral health..." God save us.