Our partner

Peer Support Warm line/crisis center?

Open discussion about the Anti-Psychiatry Movement and related topics. This includes the opposition to forced treatment and hospitalization as well as the belief that Psychiatric Medication does more harm than good. Please note that these topics are controversial and therefore this forum may offend some people. This is not the belief of Psych Forums or Get Mental Help and this forum was posted to offer a safe place to discuss these beliefs.

Peer Support Warm line/crisis center?

Postby Cheze2 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:50 am

Has anyone here called a peer support warm line? Or gone to a peer run crisis center vs a hospital? If so what was your experience?

I've been going through a difficult time the past few months and have called my local peer warm line (a peer run crisis telephone line) a few times. I must say, I am not impressed with them in my state. I am going to start calling other states to see how theirs are. In my state it's definitely not run after the IPS (intentional peer support) model that it is supposed to. I know this as I am a peer worker in another state. Perhaps I am looking for too much? Maybe since I am a peer worker I know what I'm supposed to be getting so I have a higher standard?

I was pissed when after speaking for literally 3 minutes today I was told that I don't have a mental health diagnosis and shouldn't be calling. I'm glad after speaking to me for 3 minutes on the phone they can assess my mental state and give me a diagnosis free statement. :evil: BASED ON THE SOUND OF MY VOICE and the fact that I had a job. SERIOUSLY??!!!??

Sure I consider myself in recovery. That doesn't mean that I don't still struggle and could use support from people who can relate. I'm so angry.
Bipolar I with Psychotic features; Borderline Personality disorder; GAD
Today's cocktail is: Quetiapine 100mg; Latuda 40mg; Trilafon: 8mg
Forum Rules
"No matter how long the night, the dawn always breaks" -African Proverb
Cheze2
Consumer 6
Consumer 6
 
Posts: 4380
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:36 pm
Local time: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:59 am
Blog: View Blog (0)


ADVERTISEMENT

Re: Peer Support Warm line/crisis center?

Postby 1013 victim » Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:59 am

I agree with these people. Being mentally ill is a myth but one of the most successful for the medical and legal fields and everyone associated with them. You don't need any help from trained individuals. If you want to talk to someone why not start a thread with your feelings and we can discuss.
1013 victim
Consumer 6
Consumer 6
 
Posts: 212
Joined: Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:36 pm
Local time: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:59 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Peer Support Warm line/crisis center?

Postby Riccola » Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:46 am

Cheze2 wrote:Has anyone here called a peer support warm line? Or gone to a peer run crisis center vs a hospital? If so what was your experience?

I've been going through a difficult time the past few months and have called my local peer warm line (a peer run crisis telephone line) a few times. I must say, I am not impressed with them in my state. I am going to start calling other states to see how theirs are. In my state it's definitely not run after the IPS (intentional peer support) model that it is supposed to. I know this as I am a peer worker in another state. Perhaps I am looking for too much? Maybe since I am a peer worker I know what I'm supposed to be getting so I have a higher standard?

I was pissed when after speaking for literally 3 minutes today I was told that I don't have a mental health diagnosis and shouldn't be calling. I'm glad after speaking to me for 3 minutes on the phone they can assess my mental state and give me a diagnosis free statement. :evil: BASED ON THE SOUND OF MY VOICE and the fact that I had a job. SERIOUSLY??!!!??

Sure I consider myself in recovery. That doesn't mean that I don't still struggle and could use support from people who can relate. I'm so angry.


Im so sorry you had to go through that experience. Support if needed from me to you. I have never dealt with support groups via telephone, but I have dealt with clinical psychiatrists and psych hospital settings that have been less than supportive. Its never of help when you are judged or not heard. I dont know if it helps saying this but you have every right to be angry and should be. Obviously who ever that person was is not the right fit for helping people.

Look around or try ones in other states, you might get lucky with one, or perhaps try the same one again with a different person?

Hope your doing well and getting better in this rough patch :)
forum-rules.php

"Neurons that fire together wire together, neurons that are out of sync fail to link"
Riccola
Consumer 6
Consumer 6
 
Posts: 2498
Joined: Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:47 pm
Local time: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:59 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Peer Support Warm line/crisis center?

Postby 1013 victim » Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:33 am

Just talk to us like I said. I have dealt with several special interest groups since I was unlawfully and unjustifiably committed and I am disappointed with everyone of them. I think about joining some anti-psych group but you have to be careful with all of these special interest groups. You call a line to get support you are most likely going to be talking to a scripted person. This becomes there job, just like its a psychologist job to give names to every little thing and blow stuff out of proportion. The person is not as sensitive to you as he or she should be because they deal with many people like you in a days time.
1013 victim
Consumer 6
Consumer 6
 
Posts: 212
Joined: Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:36 pm
Local time: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:59 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Peer Support Warm line/crisis center?

Postby Cheze2 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:35 am

1013 victim wrote:Just talk to us like I said. I have dealt with several special interest groups since I was unlawfully and unjustifiably committed and I am disappointed with everyone of them. I think about joining some anti-psych group but you have to be careful with all of these special interest groups. You call a line to get support you are most likely going to be talking to a scripted person. This becomes there job, just like its a psychologist job to give names to every little thing and blow stuff out of proportion. The person is not as sensitive to you as he or she should be because they deal with many people like you in a days time.

This is the very essence of what peer support is not supposed to be. This is why I called a peer warm line. It's supposed to be different. I know this because I work as a peer myself.

1013 victim wrote:Being mentally ill is a myth

I did not say mental illness.
Cheze2 wrote: I was told that I don't have a mental health diagnosis
Bipolar I with Psychotic features; Borderline Personality disorder; GAD
Today's cocktail is: Quetiapine 100mg; Latuda 40mg; Trilafon: 8mg
Forum Rules
"No matter how long the night, the dawn always breaks" -African Proverb
Cheze2
Consumer 6
Consumer 6
 
Posts: 4380
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:36 pm
Local time: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:59 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Peer Support Warm line/crisis center?

Postby 1013 victim » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:59 pm

I agree that a peer line or group is not suppose to be some scripted response. What it is suppose to be is someone to talk to that has similar experiences, hence the word peer. What are you struggling with in particular?
1013 victim
Consumer 6
Consumer 6
 
Posts: 212
Joined: Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:36 pm
Local time: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:59 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Peer Support Warm line/crisis center?

Postby Devilock » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:46 am

Im so sorry you went thru this, this is really disappointing. I think there *are* real peer support places out there that would be very good actually but, as with everything, some of them may have been taken over and run by ppl that have never been in the mental health business before, ie. as a patient and they are not very good places. Peer support is a new up and coming thing and I get the feeling that some of these places are full of fakes (I cant think of a better word to describe it). I hope u find a *real* peer support place where u can talk to someone im sure they are out there as I have read many ppls testimonies abou tthem on various websites like madinamerica etc. SOrry this comment is not very articulate.
Devilock
Consumer 5
Consumer 5
 
Posts: 169
Joined: Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:57 am
Local time: Thu Jun 19, 2025 6:29 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Peer Support Warm line/crisis center?

Postby Cheze2 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:29 pm

Thanks everyone.
1013 victim wrote:What are you struggling with in particular?

I just have a lot of life stressors that have happened since March. Everything is a bit overwhelming right now and I've been feeling really low and struggling with some thoughts of harming myself.

Devilock wrote: I think there *are* real peer support places out there that would be very good actually

There are. I know of quite a few. I live near the border of my state, and I work in the state that borders mine. In this other state the peer concept is much stronger and much more supported. There are many wonderful peer support places in that state. I've been checking out the peer support stuff that my state has to offer however and have been highly disappointed thus far. I am going to check out my local peer support agency and see how that is. I haven't been to any in my state yet so this will be an interesting experience.
Bipolar I with Psychotic features; Borderline Personality disorder; GAD
Today's cocktail is: Quetiapine 100mg; Latuda 40mg; Trilafon: 8mg
Forum Rules
"No matter how long the night, the dawn always breaks" -African Proverb
Cheze2
Consumer 6
Consumer 6
 
Posts: 4380
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:36 pm
Local time: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:59 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Peer Support Warm line/crisis center?

Postby 1013 victim » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:16 pm

Cheze2 wrote:Thanks everyone.
1013 victim wrote:What are you struggling with in particular?

I just have a lot of life stressors that have happened since March. Everything is a bit overwhelming right now and I've been feeling really low and struggling with some thoughts of harming myself.

Devilock wrote: I think there *are* real peer support places out there that would be very good actually

There are. I know of quite a few. I live near the border of my state, and I work in the state that borders mine. In this other state the peer concept is much stronger and much more supported. There are many wonderful peer support places in that state. I've been checking out the peer support stuff that my state has to offer however and have been highly disappointed thus far. I am going to check out my local peer support agency and see how that is. I haven't been to any in my state yet so this will be an interesting experience.


Why would you harm yourself? Do you need attention? Do you like inflicting physical pain on yourself? Are you ready to die?
1013 victim
Consumer 6
Consumer 6
 
Posts: 212
Joined: Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:36 pm
Local time: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:59 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: Peer Support Warm line/crisis center?

Postby Cheze2 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:08 am

1013 victim wrote:Why would you harm yourself? Do you need attention? Do you like inflicting physical pain on yourself? Are you ready to die?

I am going to make myself believe here that you are honestly asking out of honestly not being aware of the issues that surround people with difficulties with self injury. Otherwise, these are very inappropriate questions to be asked of someone who self injures.
Myths and facts about cutting and self-harm
Because cutting and other means of self-harm tend to be taboo subjects, the people around you—and possibly even you—may harbor serious misconceptions about your motivations and state of mind. Don’t let these myths get in the way of getting help or helping someone you care about.
Myth: People who cut and self-injure are trying to get attention.
Fact: The painful truth is that people who self-harm generally do so in secret. They aren’t trying to manipulate others or draw attention to themselves. In fact, shame and fear can make it very difficult to come forward and ask for help.
Myth: People who self-injure are crazy and/or dangerous.
Fact: It is true that many people who self-harm suffer from anxiety, depression, or a previous trauma—just like millions of others in the general population. Self-injury is how they cope. Slapping them with a “crazy” or “dangerous” label isn’t accurate or helpful.
Myth: People who self-injure want to die.
Fact: Self-injurers usually do not want to die. When they self-harm, they are not trying to kill themselves—they are trying to cope with their pain. In fact, self-injury may be a way of helping themselves go on living. However, in the long-term, people who self-injure have a much higher risk of suicide, which is why it’s so important to seek help.
Myth: If the wounds aren’t bad, it’s not that serious.
Fact: The severity of a person’s wounds has very little to do with how much he or she may be suffering. Don’t assume that because the wounds or injuries are minor, there’s nothing to worry about.

http://www.helpguide.org/mental/self_injury.htm
Bipolar I with Psychotic features; Borderline Personality disorder; GAD
Today's cocktail is: Quetiapine 100mg; Latuda 40mg; Trilafon: 8mg
Forum Rules
"No matter how long the night, the dawn always breaks" -African Proverb
Cheze2
Consumer 6
Consumer 6
 
Posts: 4380
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:36 pm
Local time: Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:59 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Next

Return to Anti-Psych Forum




  • Related articles
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: niveone and 6 guests