Unjustified Committal

Here is what I am not interested in.

People coming in telling me everyone thinks there commital was unjustified or trying to make light of the situation someone else lived through.

I was commited against my will and it was unjustified, It was only a 5 day stay but being committed even on a emergency hold damages your record and puts you in the federal system. It also gives the system a chance to try and prescribe you meds which they did. I am now trying to get my official committal legal documents which I have read are usually located in probate court. I contacted the court and they told me to contact a lawyer. I don't know if you need a lawyer or not to get such documents but even this seems over the top to me. I have to jump through loopholes to even get my legal documents, just seems that they don't want you to have any recourse to challenge these committals. They know if you can ever find a way to get them into a court situation where facts have to be presented they are done.

I don't want to discuss details of what made this so unjustified. I am simply asking has anyone been in this situation and actually challenged these people? What is the process? How do I get the legal documents stating what I was basically charged with? I know it sounds crazy but I still don't know the reason I was committed they have to write the explanation on the official form that they submit to the courts and I have not seen that.

1013 victim wrote:I have to jump through loopholes to even get my legal documents,

I got a Paralegal to send the paperwork and make the phone calls, it cost me $150.00

1013 victim wrote: They know if you can ever find a way to get them into a court situation where facts have to be presented they are done.

Homeless man wins $1 million after Bellevue ordeal


Marion was offered but refused medication. But Bellevue Dr. Robert LaFargue wrote out an order authorizing him to be injected with Haldol, an antipsychotic, and Ativan, a tranquilizer, and stating that, from then on, Marion was to take another drug, Depakote, orally, on threat of injection.

In his testimony, Marion described being strapped down to a gurney, a nurse hovering over him with a needle, then injecting him, “like in ‘The Cuckoo’s Nest,’ ” referring to Ken Kesey’s novel about a psychiatric hospital from hell. Comparing himself to “Louima,” as in police brutality victim Abner Louima, Marion said, “They used a toilet plunger for him and a needle for me.”

http://thevillager.com/villager_35/homelessmanwins.html

Put on some kind of record with a trusted person a dated account of what is happening to you.

-- Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:38 pm --

Put on some kind of record with a trusted person a dated account of what is happening to you.

Thanks for the advice guys. What I am currently going through is dealing with a bunch of groups and none of them are doing anything so thanks for your advice. I called legal aide, the probate court, i have called and filled forms with the cchr. This is annoying how easily it was for them to mess my life up but how hard it is to even get records. Seriously, its going to cost me money just to see my records and what they falsely accused me of in order to make me fit into this category of people that should be involuntarily committed.

Who are the civil rights groups that help people in these situations? I have tried CCHR and they dont do lawyer referrals or anything like that

I read from one of your other posts that you are from Georgia. Here are some links you might want to check out for things local

http://disabilitylink.org/wordpress/services/advocacy
http://ada.georgia.gov/
http://dso.georgia.gov/

I don't have a disability so thanks for the links but none of that helps me. I am a perfectly normal person that has never consistently been on any meds and I am not on any now. I walk, talk, and live a normal life. They committed me because they did not like something I said and it was not a threat to myself or anyone else. I don't like to talk about it because I am trying to find a way to resolve this legally and expose the fact that these people are about power and control which leads them to do a lot of things which are both unlawful and unjustified.

Thanks for any help that will lead me to the correct civil rights group or any group that can truly help.

1013 victim wrote:Thanks for any help that will lead me to the correct civil rights group or any group that can truly help.

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Thanks, I am going to join some of these independent groups, but my current concern is with how to move forward with the legal process. Right now all I want is help with getting my legal records from the probate court to see what I was charged with and how they got a judge to believe that I fit the criteria. I believe they either lied or exaggerated or the judge failed to do her job which was to make sure that the law was being correctly applied and interpreted, not judge someone. I am going to contact a paralegal or a lawyer. Sad that I have to pay money for this but thats the system

1013 victim wrote:Thanks, I am going to join some of these independent groups, but my current concern is with how to move forward with the legal process. Right now all I want is help with getting my legal records from the probate court to see what I was charged with and how they got a judge to believe that I fit the criteria. I believe they either lied or exaggerated or the judge failed to do her job which was to make sure that the law was being correctly applied and interpreted, not judge someone. I am going to contact a paralegal or a lawyer. Sad that I have to pay money for this but thats the system

I'm interested in how it works out. I saw so many people in the hospital yell "I am going to sue this place" in reaction to abusive treatment but most give up soon after getting out or don't try at all.

One thing I like to suggest to people abused by the mental health system is writing a "ripoff report" www.ripoffreport.com , its an online consumer complaint site.

By filing a Ripoff Report it's almost like creating your own web site ..And, it's FREE.

Your Ripoff Report will be seen by other consumers. Search engines will automatically discover most reports, meaning that within just a few days or weeks, your report may be found on search engines when consumers search, using key words relating to your Ripoff Report. Its almost always first page google search results ! for the offending hospital or doctor. Before the age of the Internet consumers had to contend with sending complaint letters to businesses and the national Better Business Bureau. But unless the media picked up a complaint, it might usually go unheard about by other consumers. These days however, its different.

Also what happens is other victims start posting there stories exposing what often really goes on behind the locked doors of inpatient psychiatry.

If you want to do this just don't write the report when angry and remember there is no go back and edit button. You can post anonymously with this site.

I feel I was unjustifiably committed as well. My dad and step mom though sort of vouched and filed the paper to have me "screened". I agree, man behind those closed doors is complete #######4 and abuse. One wrong move or not obeying a command by someone gets you sent to the 'back room' and injected with thorazine. All bull. I've thought about doing something legally. I got my inpatient record from the hospital. 1013, have you checked there? Psychiatry is a scam and the person committed often times is a damn scapegoat because the rest of the family is dysfunctional (at least in my case) . Psych abuse needs to gain some attention and these life ruiners need to face their facts that they aren't curing anybody; just maintaining a person at a low level and giving them side-effects.

-- Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:05 am --

I feel I was unjustifiably committed as well. My dad and step mom though sort of vouched and filed the paper to have me "screened". I agree, man behind those closed doors is complete #######4 and abuse. One wrong move or not obeying a command by someone gets you sent to the 'back room' and injected with thorazine. All bull. I've thought about doing something legally. I got my inpatient record from the hospital. 1013, have you checked there? Psychiatry is a scam and the person committed often times is a damn scapegoat because the rest of the family is dysfunctional (at least in my case) . Psych abuse needs to gain some attention and these life ruiners need to face their facts that they aren't curing anybody; just maintaining a person at a low level and giving them side-effects.