psychiatry and eugenics

Razael wrote:I've thought a bit about the whole eugenics thing, it didn't seem to go anywhere and even the sexual side-effects seemed to be more and good side-effect that might make some egenisists or the psychiatrists think its not so much of a problem...when I am off antipsychotics to compared with when I am on them have a problem that I am not as self confident and don't even think about sex or when I see a girl when I am off antipsychotics I think about getting their attention and more confidence with myslef and feeling good about myslef...psychiatrist don't have anything to say about $#%^ like that coz they are too busy with a simple mind of making it out to be symptoms its discrimination at its worst and this treatmnet is inhuman...like what you can expect for anyone who having taken their liberty away from them...they don't care

sorry I been busy writing and have burnt out a bit...more like writing and getting a bad feeling about proceedings of the magistrate level hearing over my CTO status, i feel like the system might kick me around...written some stuff for them lateley hope its better then this $#%^...its the fuccking antipsychotics I tell you..my mind is not as vital and less itegrity in communications.

I find that I cant remember allot of words, when im trying to talk about something, icant find the right word. it feels as tho im not as smart anymore.

I am hoping to raist attention to how the nazi psychiatrists escaped wrcrimes for some of the worst torture and disgusting things done with the mentally ill, they killed hundreds of thousands of them and we never even hear about that happening, its secreet business..those quacks simply packed up and shipped to america and continued in the line of psychiatry we have today...a lot changed around this time in history what was psychiatry before that..maybe its an inherant thing like a mechanism that is natural for people to be afraid of something they don'[t undrestand and makke for a hard time with the mentally ill being outcast naturally from society..psychiatry acts like a tool for victimising people who are different or a challenge to normalcy .

I know, you don't learn about that stuff in 'history' or uni or whatever, your right it is secret business, I don't know how they get away with this stuff I really don't...re. that maybe they are scared of what they don't understand. Mabye I realize it, because ive been thru trauma and psychiatry, but even basic psychology states that when u go thru things like childhood trauma, there are going to be affects of that later that come out, all kinds of 'symptoms'. I was listeinig to madness radio (from freedom centre page) about a lady who had voices and she figured out how the voices and what they said and the tone of them etc were related to the trama she had been thru in childhood. She is now researching the effects of childhood trauma on psychosis and disosiation. But back to what I was saying, WHY don't psychiatrists realize that having symptoms of so called mi is just another human experience like being left handed (I quoted that from will hall freedom centre), and why don't they understand that maybe something is wrong in the persons life that they need to work on, why and how can they believe (imean come on , some of them have to be intelligent to go thru med school don't u think??) in a chemical imbalance , when the evidence for this is ridiculous, how can they not see this? how can they not *think* about stuff like this and realize it themselves without anti psych groups./survivors trying to raise their awareness? Its just logical. I guss they must be so condiditoned, so indoctrinated by this line of work, and then theres also the fact that, do they know they have to cause harm In their proffesion before they get into it? Or do they learn it when they train etc? I don't understand how psycs and the general public r so scared of mh issues when these ppl are suffereing, why don't they want to help them? to care about them? I know im not alone in thinking this stuff ive read others write about it, what is wrong here are they just uncaring uncompassionate ppl?

I wrote a lot and was probalby jarbled, hope that bit about the nazi psychiatrist setting up for modern day psychiatry is important.

I', like you devilock and find discussion isn't that strong on here at times.

thanx , yeah I check this forum allot and theres sometimes new topics, but only 1 or 2 commnets left, I wish we had heaps more ppl discussin.

-- Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:39 pm --

sorry I started out totally reeking of #######4 of the psychiatry mental plane of thinking, like side-effects ...its not what I mean...I have thought they really like the way psychiatric drugs knock out fertility and mating abundance or whatever the word is, sexual verility etc anhedonia includes a sexual component and perfectly matches the way antipsychotics work but psychiatrists are ignorant to this making it out to be sympotms...different topic.

Its tricky devilock becuase the subject you are interested in is shrouded in much secreccy, and even if based on fact your thoughts and beliefs would be made out to be symptoms by ignorant psychiatrist, doesnt really matter what it is, if the psychiatrist blocks their ears and don't want to hear something or are challenged their belief systems for having meaning and dumbed down or desensitised for betraying our basic human rights...they are torturers, but yeah a lot of people appreciate their work so that just satisfies their egos, and they give a harder time with involuntary treatmnets to those that arre thinking this is a crock of $#%^

yeah, allot of ppl with vested interest too, appretiate their work, like perpetrators of abuse, pharma companies, parents with control issues, relatives of a sufferer who want to get rid of them...etc etc this is part of the reason why it continues, but theres also the problem of psychiatry as a 'science', did it start off in the beginning as talk therapy? did they use barbituates and opiates BEFORE Nazi Germany? or did that start after? im not to sure on the timeline, did psychology come before psychiatry? I guess there were allot of ppl wandering around with mh issues and they just wanted to lock them all up, but even picturing this in my mind, an 18th century eccentric wandering around the streets homeless or whatever, id want to help them, get them shelter, food, care for them , get them somewhere 'safe; to stay, not bloody electrocute them. I think there are allot of ppl who are 'sick' and want to hurt others, I mean I can see this even when I was in hospital, basically 90% of the nurses and staff and drs, they are all assholes! there was like ONE caring nurse there who actually listened and had compassion, one in a building of like 200 staff. So def. I think these abusers/sadistic/cruel/unkind ppl are attracted to the proffesion, I know that sounds crazy if a lay person where to read that, and I wouldn't believe it either, except that ive experienced it, they really are ###$ up ppl that work in mh!

sorry the drugs ###$ my vocabulary too, as if I could chat up or even know what to do with a girl on antipsychotics. like I have nothing to offer now, or am not an interesting person...I pre-occupied with this $#%^ about psychiatry.

Devilock wrote:I'd like to think that I havnt been sterilized ( and I know last time I posted it it was met with some harsh remarks about how amenhorea ISNT sterilization

Devilock wrote:but I intend to go to a fertility clinic and check (if they can???) to see if I am still able to have babies.