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Why Shrinks need to be seen as the ultimate authority figure

Postby IntellectuSophisto » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:19 pm

Does anyone know why this is? Do you think some people get into this field because they have a pathological need to control patients and be seen as an authority figure because they have low self-esteem? I know that when I was a teenager, there was nothing seriously wrong with me in terms of being functional, but the more I rejected my psychiatrist's authority, the more desperate he seemed to up the small dose of medication my parents so reluctantly forced me to take. He would not see me unless I was taking the downer drugs he prescribed me. One session, it was all about him, and how I "offended" him, and I was simply resistant because I did not want to be harassed and picked at.
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Re: Why Shrinks need to be seen as the ultimate authority fi

Postby Copy_Cat » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:12 pm

Narcissistic Personality Disorder

They have an excessive sense of how important they are. They demand and expect to be admired and praised by others and are limited in their capacity to appreciate others' perspectives.

More for you to check out:

Why Anti-Authoritarians are Diagnosed as Mentally Ill

"I have found that most psychologists, psychiatrists, and other mental health professionals are not only extraordinarily compliant with authorities but also unaware of the magnitude of their obedience. And it also has become clear to me that the anti-authoritarianism of their patients creates enormous anxiety for these professionals, and their anxiety fuels diagnoses and treatments."

Read more http://www.madinamerica.com/2012/02/why-anti-authoritarians-are-diagnosed-as-mentally-ill/
I survived psychiatry.
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Re: Why Shrinks need to be seen as the ultimate authority fi

Postby Devilock » Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:34 pm

Copy_Cat wrote:Narcissistic Personality Disorder

They have an excessive sense of how important they are. They demand and expect to be admired and praised by others and are limited in their capacity to appreciate others' perspectives.

More for you to check out:

Why Anti-Authoritarians are Diagnosed as Mentally Ill

"I have found that most psychologists, psychiatrists, and other mental health professionals are not only extraordinarily compliant with authorities but also unaware of the magnitude of their obedience. And it also has become clear to me that the anti-authoritarianism of their patients creates enormous anxiety for these professionals, and their anxiety fuels diagnoses and treatments."

Read more http://www.madinamerica.com/2012/02/why-anti-authoritarians-are-diagnosed-as-mentally-ill/


I think this is definatley true. I'll check out the web page soon and read thru it. but when I was diagnosed my parents really pounded in the anti authoritarian stuff about me, like that I 'didn't cook a healthy dinner everynight' (I was 20 and just moved out of home!!) and my flat was 'messy'. They said I didn't have a job and that I hung around 'punk rockers' and went to 'music shows'. The psych basically said this was part of my illness, and ive heard allot of other ppls stories comment on how their anti authoritarian views were deemed part of an 'illness'. Have u seen the movie quadrohphenia? its set in England in the 70s and this young guy likes going to music shows and riding his scooter motorbike and because he dosnt have a job and is a bit anti authoritarian, the father says to him 'your a schizophrenic, that's what u are', the guy didn't even have any sympoms of mental illness, its a pretty common theme I think.
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Re: Why Shrinks need to be seen as the ultimate authority fi

Postby Devilock » Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:16 am

Excellent article. I really enjoyed reading it. It made heaps of good points about the subject. The fact the psychs and psychologists are very authoritarian and compliant themselves and that they see anti authoritarians as a symptom of illness. They have had to be compliant to get to where they are, they are mainlined out of universitys and the author states that most he has met are not very questioning towards authority.
The very fact that society is not perfect and considered 'sick' itself is a major cause of what ppl label 'mental illness', eg. the 7 yr old boy who does not want to read and is labeled adhd. The environmental factors in ALL these diagnoses are so often not looked at all. As I said in another post I think 90% of ppls problems are enviormental (or the result of abuse, trauma and a sick society).
Also, the point that anti authoritarians are needed in this society, they are the ones that promote changes to occur, that *think* about authorities and their rules eg. psych abuse, restraint, seclusion, forced drugging. The very fact that ppl opposed to these things are seen as lacking insight into an illness is distressing. It is almost political. It reminds me of when they used to use anti psychotics on political prisoners and label them schizophrenic.
Psychiatry IS a form of social control.
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Re: Why Shrinks need to be seen as the ultimate authority fi

Postby Razael » Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:58 am

psychiatrists don;;t like anyone that is smarter or more objective then they are. if you are confrontaational to their world of ignorance that has them blocking their ears and deliberately getting confused about the subject to humiliate their patient in making into symptoms....its agitating dealing with these idiots, and since they are so ignorant anything that wakes them the ###$ up is seen as symptoms for challenging their delusions of superiority,..they at least claim its grandeur delusions for someone that is standing up to their #######4.

I am thinking a better mode of action is to pull up the quack to openly define when and what it is that I don;t like about their response to me, its discrimination of having a mental illness and am above their notions and theory about the labels that are superficial inventions and everything to see above and beyond mental health diagnosiss and treatment is defined as insight to refuse their pseudo-religious dogma and indoctrination into complaacency aand trust in their delusions of superiority.

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they are living a lie so the truth to them would be outrageious and deafening, they would say its arguementative if anything......I can see in my last message that a quack wouldn't understand my reasoning and even me reading over it , it doesn't make a whole lot of sense....or this is part of the illusions of the mental plane to see higher truth from within the lie that everyone lives in to certain extents some more then others, to truly liberate or have that as an intention would probably fall on deaf ears to a quack and they say its part of schizophrenia.

you're right its all about social control for anti-authoritarians
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Re: Why Shrinks need to be seen as the ultimate authority fi

Postby Razael » Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:22 am

anti-authoritarian concept is working good for me, I am going to use it in my case to get off CTO...I've already said that they label me ill for refusing their pseudo-religious doctrined trying to conform me to the medical model and have much of anti-authoritaarian syndrome with psychiatrists...thing is I respondd to their doctrines and philosophy with my own that I sore more isngihtfull to the situation but it is made out a symptoms unreasonably for my own religious truths in relation to my mental health.
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