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Anyone following the Risperdal lawsuit ?

Postby Copy_Cat » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:43 am

It all kind of started with the promotion of pediatric bipolar to sell this stuff for children.
Its scary how these people operate.
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Re: Anyone following the Risperdal lawsuit ?

Postby Copy_Cat » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:10 pm

Here is a starting point, The Risperdal Lawsuits Keep On Coming:http://www.pharmalive.com/the-risperdal-lawsuits-keep-on-coming-kentucky-sues-jj

They started targeting children with that pediatric bipolar scam to sell Risperdal.
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Re: Anyone following the Risperdal lawsuit ?

Postby MrOmega » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:18 pm

Yeah sure... I am no accountant, but risk management may be an issue to consider. No advertising company is going to allow creative freedom to a production house. Only an opinion.

So... the faster the drugs get out, the better the marketing... it's risk and time that come into play.

So if they get medicine on the shelves and people accustomed to it... they most likely enter a settlement phase.

Do you really believe it will go to court?

I only read the first paragraph so I may be off.

Once it goes to court, the press has something to chew on, for lacks of better terms...

I'm sold on the idea that nearly every single drug on the market produces negative effects. Risk management.

What do the clinical trials say on the matter? FDA, and such...


See... they are behind closed doors at the moment... away from the justice system...

As noted, many other states succeeded in forcing J&J to pay for Risperdal marketing practices. Last year, J&J agreed to pay $181 million to resolve claims by 36 states (see this), an Arkansas judge fined the health care giant $1 billion (look here) and J&J (JNJ) agreed to pay $158 million to settle a lawsuit brought by the Texas attorney general (back story). And two years ago, J&J was ordered by a South Carolina judge to pay $327 million for deceptive marketing, which he called detestable (see here).


Okay, I am new to this one... 36 states have laid claims, and 3 have been processed by the justice system. So maybe I am still correct, risk management.

I got no clue how big J&J are...

OH! J&J... Johnsons and Johnsons, baby powder... ###$... they will all go to court...

Oh I see... FDA approves it for certain specific things... and it goes mainstream, most likely for a variety of things...

In 2006, the FDA approved risperidone for the treatment of irritability in children and adolescents with autism.[26] The FDA's decision was based in part on a study of autistic people with severe and enduring problems of violent meltdowns, aggression, and self-injury; risperidone is not recommended for autistic people with mild aggression and explosive behavior without an enduring pattern.[27]


The jury found the companies had downplayed multiple risks associated with risperidone (Risperdal). The judge held that nearly 240,000 violations of the state's Medicaid fraud law had been committed. Each violation carried a fine of $5,000. The companies were also fined $11 million for more than 4,500 violations of the state’s deceptive practices laws.


Unsure how all those fines, add up... where the source is or citation, but perhaps each state law varies as well, bogging down the process.

How many laws in Arkansas might there be? I mean, wth... a lot of advertising to the public? Or do they solicit medications to medical establishments themselves?

Doctor once told me, they have a manual somewhere, and they go by that. So it seems like it must be Business to Business solicitation violations.

I am totally guessing to kill time... I might be out to lunch...
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Re: Anyone following the Risperdal lawsuit ?

Postby Copy_Cat » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:29 pm

MrOmega wrote:What do the clinical trials say on the matter?


They do 6 week studies and always ignore withdrawal reactions.

Warning , this medication is FDA approved !

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Re: Anyone following the Risperdal lawsuit ?

Postby MrOmega » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:42 pm

Yeah, unsure the FDA is the wrong here... totally depends on those violations, where they occur in the distribution, chain I guess.

I mean if there is a manual somewhere that states the specifics of the drug and how that interacts, and is endorsed by the FDA, sure...

But if J&J are aggressively soliciting pediatricians, well, who do you trust?

You ever go to post secondary? I totally respect my family doctor, however, there are miles and miles and miles and miles of specialists. What it's like being in the states, an independent pediatrician. Oh the headaches of dealing with the rent, or paychecks, or whatever mundane day to day things that must happen. Right? I mean do doctors when they open shop, hire a business manager? Or a secretary?
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Re: Anyone following the Risperdal lawsuit ?

Postby Cheze2 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:51 pm

Welcome to anti-psych Mr Omega! It's nice to see the wheels turning as you're thinking this through. :wink:

Yes pharmacy companies do solicit doctors to push their medications. Even pediatricians. Ever gone to a doctor's office and seen them write with a pen that had a medication name on it? Or on a note pad with the medication name on it? Yep, they got those free from their local pharmaceutical representative who visited them and told them how wonderful their medication is. The next time a patient comes in describing such and such symptoms, what's the first drug that comes to mind? Oh wait! it's right here on the pen!

Are there books describing first line medications second line etc? yes. Do doctors use them? For the most part, no. It's all about what comes to mind, and what their experiences are with certain medications.
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Re: Anyone following the Risperdal lawsuit ?

Postby Cate68 » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:09 pm

I didn't know that there was a lawsuit, but I am not surprised.

My doctor always prescribes me the rhisperdol but I don't take it because with one mg of the pill I cannot move. I am not amublatory.

Where I live, most child psychiatrists DO NOT use this drug because they feel that it is cruel to the child. The child is deprived of nutrients and will eat themselves into becoming overweight.

This is a dangerous, horrible drug that needs to be taken off of the market.

This is iatrocaptialism at its finest.
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Re: Anyone following the Risperdal lawsuit ?

Postby Copy_Cat » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:47 pm

Cate68 wrote:I didn't know that there was a lawsuit, but I am not surprised.


There is a big one, that drug has made so many people sick.

Pharma lawsuits are huge , in the billions but it doesn't make the news much cause of the big pharma sponsors buying all those t.v ads that end in "ask your doctor" about Cymbalta , Abilify...

Everyone knows about the billion dollar lawsuit over the oil spill, but when the pharma companies kill and sicken children it usually goes unheard.


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