An introduction of sorts

Cheze2 wrote:

Razael wrote:do you get what I mean, that refusing and being anti-pyschiatry in the moment where they think you are psychotic is gonna be seen as symptoms of psychosis.

you've come a long way razael.

Are you serious cheze? maybe the shankhpushpi herb is really working! I thought with what i was trying to talk about would be unreadable or fragmented, still don't think I have a grasp on the topic of how psychiatry is a religion or counter religious at least, it treads on religious ideals, especially the notion that one will recover beyond the grasp of the medicla model to make out the drugs were effective in all recoveries even breif psycosis, and I find the drugs they give you give symptoms of the illness, like the communications it is ahard to rouse an active receptive and active mind in association to what i being communciated, antipsychotics make for memory problems difficulty finding words and expressing effectively, its all blocked and for me they block it for my repulsion to the teachings and phiklosophy of psychiatry that they try to force on me in some kind of dogma and standing for unreality.

I didn't write so much originally but my browser froze sending a reply, made cheze think twice maybe about thinking I cme a long way. don;t you hate when you have to write it all again somehow when it was good as it was?

here is a link to what wouldnt usually be allowed for people to post on normal forums as it reveals some myths of medications and the schizophrenia itself...scroll down for stuff on drug free recoveries, all the studies are interesting though.

http://www.madinamerica.com/2010/04/schizophrenia/

I hate liars, bullies and thugs. All psychiatrists, psych nurses and social workers employed by governments are liars, bullies and thugs regardless of how cute or cool they may appear to be.

Thanks for the link Razael I've heard about that before but haven't visited the site. I will take a good look

Nice to meet you Rod

Hi lifelongthing, interesting thread.

lifelongthing wrote:

I agree all power should have critical eyes on it, and for me I want that to apply across the board to both psych and alternatives to psych.

I absolutely agree.

In an ideal world it would be easy for service users to find out what an organisation really wants as an alternative to psychiatry, and where their money is coming from, but this is sometimes not easy.

In an ideal world it would be easy for service users to find out what an organisation really wants as an alternative to psychiatry, and where their money is coming from, but this is sometimes not easy.

Transparency regarding money spent / gotten at all would help immensely in psychiatry, really.

lifelongthing wrote:

In an ideal world it would be easy for service users to find out what an organisation really wants as an alternative to psychiatry, and where their money is coming from, but this is sometimes not easy.

Transparency regarding money spent / gotten at all would help immensely in psychiatry, really.

it would help those they claim to be deluded about drug money running psychiatry...my case workers etc all get confused when I talk about it and make out its just a schizophrenic thing.

it would help those they claim to be deluded about drug money running psychiatry...my case workers etc all get confused when I talk about it and make out its just a schizophrenic thing.

I think you're right that it would help a lot. I know from a physical point of view that my SO has a disability and has been treated appallingly by the hospital. When she tells her mental health workers this, they label it as paranoia. I've been there. There was no paranoia about it. Because there isn't transparency and legitimate consequences for those that are in the wrong, it becomes the burden of the accuser to prove themselves right. Without transparency this might very well not even be possible.