But medication helps some people !!

"Anti-psychiatry is not the "war on drugs."

Its many things, like fighting for basic inalienable human rights in the field of mental health, including full informed consent regarding the medical legitimacy of psychiatric diagnosis all the risks of psychiatric treatments, the right to all available medical alternatives, and the right to refuse any treatment the patient considers harmful.


There is lots more to it, someone help me out here.

Sounds like your
saying people need to be fully informed and should have the right to refuse what may be harmful to them. I guessing now but. you are talking about people who are functioning and have their faculties so to say.

the other me wrote:Sounds like your
saying people need to be fully informed and should have the right to refuse what may be harmful to them. I guessing now but. you are talking about people who are functioning and have their faculties so to say.

If there awake and can speak they are functioning.

I don't think you know what the status quo is like. You can be "agitated" real bad but surely have your faculties. That "lacks insight" thing is severly abused.

If you have ever drank lots of alcohol your "mentally ill" basically, but do you totally lack insight ?

Copy_Cat wrote:"Anti-psychiatry is not the "war on drugs."

Its many things, like fighting for basic inalienable human rights in the field of mental health, including full informed consent regarding the medical legitimacy of psychiatric diagnosis all the risks of psychiatric treatments, the right to all available medical alternatives, and the right to refuse any treatment the patient considers harmful.

Good post.

As always, I am for _informed_ consent.

But that has to apply to the _alternatives_ to psychiatry as well.

Everyone should have informed consent about everything.

"But medication helps some people".

Yeah, and so did Jimmy Savile! He was also a serial child rapist. Yes, these drugs do help some people, yet they have also been responsible for one of the worst epidemics of iatrogenic brain damage and disease in human history, drugs that are still being given to people without their informed consent; they have also been responsible for an epidemic of withdrawal problems. Nevertheless, for most people, it is out sight, out of mind, as well as being out of mind because the horrors associated with these drugs lie outside of their experiential orbit. They don't see our suffering, nor do most have any experience of it. This makes it only too easy to trivialize the terrible things these drugs can do to you. Before I experienced withdrawal, I thought it would be easy. Then I tried coming off!

Don't get me wrong, if people want to take them, that is their business and most certainly not mine, but forcing people to take them is something I will never accept.

I would agree quite say yes to this question because some people quit smoking with the help of medicine. Quit smoking medicines can reduce your nicotine withdrawal symptoms, reduce your urge to smoke, and boost your chances of quitting.*mod edit*. Medications are used to treat the symptoms of mental disorders such as schizophrenia, depression, bipolar disorder. Only if they are taken under proper guidance of your doctor.Sometimes medications are used with other treatments such as psychotherapy. However, Medications cannot cure the disorder, but they make people feel better so they can function. What I believe is medications work differently for different people. Some people get great results from medications and only need them for a short time. example : If a person with depression may feel much better after taking a medication for a few months, and may never need it again.

Rachel Moron wrote:I would agree quite say yes to this question because some people quit smoking with the help of medicine.

You mean Wellbutrin or "Zyban"

http://wGlaxoSmithKline to Plead Guilty and Pay $3 Billion to Resolve Fraud Allegations and Failure to Report Safety Data ww.justice.gov/opa/pr/2012/July/12-civ-842.html


Or Chantix ?

As Pfizer Pharmaceutical tries to wind down the more than 2,500 lawsuits regarding Chantix side effects, it is choosing to settle with a majority of plaintiffs. According to recent reports, the company has already agreed to pay out $273 million to 80 percent of the claimants, or roughly 2,100 victims.

See http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2012/July/12-civ-842.html

I would rather smoke then screw myself up on this stuff.

Medication may help some people. It might mellow them out or make them feel better temporarily but as soon as the medication wears off, their symptoms will be right back. In most cases, taking the medication on occasion when symptoms become severe might be the best course of action or even not taking the medication at all. However, I think that in cases where there is some kind of neurological problem involved medication may be the only answer, but I think this is probably rare

Taking medication is a very personal choice. It is highly important that the person be fully informed on their choices. I agree that the "fully informed" portion is lacking in psychiatry at this point in time.