It's all kicking off on...

One of the things I have learned from this is that when we identify with someone in some way and respect them, we heed what they say. When no such identification and respect exists, we focus on what they do. With this in mind, it seems there are a lot people on there who identify with and respect this man. Such people are no friends of mine, regardless of any proximity of experiences in the Mental Death System.

The majority of survivors on there remind one of something Soren Kierkegaard once said; "..man is a social animal-only in the herd is he happy. It is all one to him whether it is the profoundest nonsense or the greatest villainy-he feels completely at ease with it, so long as it is the view of the herd, or the action of the herd, and he is able to join the herd."

The majority of people on MIA would go along with any prescription or demand, anything that would allow them to cement their place within that community. They might complain at first, but then they would become so miserable that they would sacrifice any principle to be allowed readmission. Hence why man's herd instinct is the perhaps the great solvent of an individual's principles, and why we must measure the honesty of those who profess them by whether or not such principles withstand the many tests they must endure, such as willingness to forfeit herd membership if such principles are not enshrined within the customs and conventions of said herd. People who fail such tests are usually potential Nazis. Clearly, most of the people on there have failed such a test.

You don't have to be included in that little army to still fight the war. Screw em.

This is an information war,

Psych industry bull V.s the truth.

Pseudoscience V.s real science

And your favorite that your real good at writing about , Human rights Vs psych industry tyranny and oppression .

This domain seems unclaimed www.humanrightspsychiatry.com

Why not make it yours ? Page rank loves search words in the domain.

Any place on this web with a text box to write and sumbit is a place for activism and getting the truth out.

Now I get it !


I just got hit with cencorship out there on the web !!! Not MIA but rrrrrrrr

I hope your doing alright, Got a fresh taste of how it feels myself.

I'm really pissed off and I was screwing with a pharma front site, the one I PM you with.

I got "blocked" from it too !, A big joke that is goto a coffee shop to sign up again and use a web proxy from here to log in... .

F - them ! That's lieing editing out opinions and comments from a "free exchange of ideas." and passing it off as discussion.


The only thing you can say on this site is "ask your doctor" like a ######6 Abilify commercial.


We had a pro psych guy in here that was tough, we don't need to cencor WTF !

Sorry for that sandbox comment I was really bummed seeing the team fighting but I get it, just got a lesson. and I get it.

Trust me, I feel your anger. It wouldn't be quite so infuriating if the people who do these kind of things didn't then compound our anger by offering the most absurd justifications for what they do, like that guy who wrote that obscene article on MIA, who is just rationalizing something that affords him an immense amount of satisfaction. With his every word in that article I can almost read his smugometer rising.

I hope you are alright too. Such people are just abusing their power marginalize thoughts and expressions that test them beyond the extremely narrow limits of their tolerance. The fact that people have to even justify a free exchange of ideas, free from the baleful influence of those whose business is the circumscription of the human spirit, is a potent indicator of the intolerance of the times.

This pervasive miasma of intolerance (of which that guy's article is just one drop in the vast ocean of modern society that allows insight into the entirety of its composition) serves only to narrow the scope of individual freedom. People, in our politically correct societies, where such intolerance has a certain glamour, are constantly mindful of saying the wrong things for fear of punishment by exclusion, exclusion being one of the most effective weapons society has in its war against difference, because man is a social animal whose happiness is dependent to a very large degree on his social integration. Hence why exclusion of heretics is such a deeply embedded institution, whose central strategic function is to ensure obedience to the dominant social ethic by playing to man's instinctual need to be a part of a herd. This is perhaps one of the main reasons why it is being used on MIA, a site that obviously identifies with some of the more oppressive rituals of the society in which it is embedded, and for that reason, must be avoided by the true opponent of societal intolerance and oppression.

The way things are going on that site you won't be able to comment on there unless you worship the very toilets Mr Whitaker and his lackeys plant their ignoble behinds upon and defecate into.

He keeps on talking about making the site more inclusive, seemingly oblivious to the paradox of a policy of inclusion by exclusion!

-- Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:45 pm --

Copy_Cat wrote:I'm really pissed off and I was screwing with a pharma front site, the one I PM you with.

I got "blocked" from it too !, A big joke that is goto a coffee shop to sign up again and use a web proxy from here to log in... .

F - them ! That's lieing editing out opinions and comments from a "free exchange of ideas." and passing it off as discussion.


The only thing you can say on this site is "ask your doctor" like a ######6 Abilify commercial.


We had a pro psych guy in here that was tough, we don't need to cencor WTF !

Sorry for that sandbox comment I was really bummed seeing the team fighting but I get it, just got a lesson. and I get it.

That's a good idea about the coffee shop. Yeah, ask your doctor! I've no faith in doctors whatsoever, and such a lack of faith has been forged from direct experience of their general incompetence, so I will not, as some seem to insist, reproach myself. Doctors are so intoxicated on their power, they expect trust as a right, and not as conditional upon responsible usage of that power, which is such a rarity amongst the powerful, it's unlikely you will ever encounter its example, although I am growing increasingly skeptical about the existence of its example altogether.

I love how he basically says that he is just an organ of the intolerance of many of the potential and actual members of the community, how he was driven to this decision by the complaints of others. Fine, at least that should let everyone know whose interests he has at heart and that the people he is slagging off are not welcome.

One person says it basically isn't too much to modify how we present our thoughts and opinions, most likely basing his patronizing prescription on normative assumptions about what constitutes verbal offense and what doesn't, assumptions predicated not on objective measurements but conceived in the fallible minds of individuals. The person who said that is a real Mental Healther, so I am hardly surprised to hear such drivel issue from his mouth. Properly deciphered, this is code language for "be more like me! Follow my example!" All this on a site that has pretensions to being in the vanguard of a Human Rights movement! Nonsense.

He says it is a question of form over content. No it isn't. He confuses a rationalization for a rationale, and the whole "form over content" rationalization ill comports with much I have seen occur in that cyber cesspit.

I guess MIA wants to play there game with numbers and statistics , and can likely "win" on that. And wants the survivor voice toned down to avoid being called a hate site by critics...


It just reminds me of this.

"The new Nero will approach us with the silky manners of a doctor, and though all will be in fact as compulsory as the tunica molesta or Smithfield or Tyburn, all will go on within the unemotional therapeutic sphere where words like 'right' and 'wrong' or 'freedom' and 'slavery' are never heard...

Even if the treatment is painful, even if it is life-long, even if it is fatal, that will be only a regrettable accident; the intention was purely therapeutic...

But because they are 'treatment, not punishment, they can be criticized only by fellow-experts and on technical grounds, never by men as men and on grounds of justice... "

C. S. Lewis, "The Humanitarian Theory of Punishment"

In one comment, he puts undue semantic strain on the term "censorship" for the convenience of the stupid point he wants to make. Supposedly, when people are disinclined to have their say due to what he describes as "bullying of others", this is censorship, even though such people are free to express themselves, ergo there isn't any censorship. I've been on lots of sites where if you venture a heretical point within the context of that community, you are assailed on all sides and from seemingly all quarters by the scurrilities of others, yet I still was allowed to have my say, ergo, there is no censorship! Simple.

Cledwyn Bulbs wrote:In one comment, he puts undue semantic strain on the term "censorship" for the convenience of the stupid point he wants to make. Supposedly, when people are disinclined to have their say due to what he describes as "bullying of others", this is censorship, even though such people are free to express themselves, ergo there isn't any censorship. I've been on lots of sites where if you venture a heretical point within the context of that community, you are assailed on all sides and from seemingly all quarters by the scurrilities of others, yet I still was allowed to have my say, ergo, there is no censorship! Simple.

Copy_Cat wrote:I guess MIA wants to play there game with numbers and statistics , and can likely "win" on that. And wants the survivor voice toned down to avoid being called a hate site by critics...


It just reminds me of this.

"The new Nero will approach us with the silky manners of a doctor, and though all will be in fact as compulsory as the tunica molesta or Smithfield or Tyburn, all will go on within the unemotional therapeutic sphere where words like 'right' and 'wrong' or 'freedom' and 'slavery' are never heard...

Even if the treatment is painful, even if it is life-long, even if it is fatal, that will be only a regrettable accident; the intention was purely therapeutic...

But because they are 'treatment, not punishment, they can be criticized only by fellow-experts and on technical grounds, never by men as men and on grounds of justice... "

C. S. Lewis, "The Humanitarian Theory of Punishment"

Yes, that's an excellent quote, alluding as I see it to the power of language and the importance of how an issue is framed, and of how tyrants and other criminals make language an accessory to their crimes, as well as to the strategic use of "good intentions" as a means of escaping responsibility for the harm occasioned by treatments/punishments.

There is no mention of boo-words like "intolerance" and "exclusion" in that MIA "discussion". Instead, hurrah-words that connote positive, pleasurable emotions are being used, like "inclusion" and "tolerance", and the moderator sets up an invidious contrast by characterizing the behaviour of those whom he is in conflict with as "bullying" and "abusive", whereas other people, the slaves, are dignified with words like "thoughtful", "intelligent" and "civil".

I love the part about how the new Nero will approach us with the silky manners of a doctor. It's not the angry, passionate people that worry me, it's those who prey on others with caring manners and miens, those who rule with an iron fist, but in a velvet glove. Iago is very polite in Othello. Nurse Ratched in One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest isn't angry, and remains in possession of herself at all times. Humphrey Appleby In Yes Minister, the Machiavellian politician, once again, very "civil".