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The truth about pharma-psych is getting out I think

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:21 am

I was just typing in some random mental health keywords looking for something to make a topic about and it seems like more links to pages critical of psychiatry came up then just a year or 2 ago.

Does anyone else see this trend ?


I also see all kinds of comments on youtube videos that tell me the words getting out.
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Re: The truth about pharma-psych is getting out I think

Postby Razael » Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:49 am

people are waking up...I can only hope so, we need more people that don't usually have interest or turn the other cheek..psychiatry even gets ignored in heavenly realms by beings that reside abovve the earth in heaven, they block their ears...

I'm trying to get the word out to god for the sake of doing something about this unreality that threatens the very laws of the universe..

I can only hope for mass awakening or enlightenment of psychiatrist and hope with their new found knowledge turn this baby around
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Re: The truth about pharma-psych is getting out I think

Postby Platypus » Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:10 am

Copy_Cat wrote:I was just typing in some random mental health keywords looking for something to make a topic about and it seems like more links to pages critical of psychiatry came up then just a year or 2 ago.

It could also be the effect of personalised search results.
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Re: The truth about pharma-psych is getting out I think

Postby beneficii » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:46 pm

What's getting out?
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Re: The truth about pharma-psych is getting out I think

Postby Copy_Cat » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:39 pm

beneficii wrote:What's getting out?


The number of people being harmed by psychiatry's fraudulent labels and the drugs that go with them.
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Re: The truth about pharma-psych is getting out I think

Postby beneficii » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:50 pm

And what about the people getting help or need that help?
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Re: The truth about pharma-psych is getting out I think

Postby Copy_Cat » Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:11 pm

beneficii wrote:And what about the people getting help or need that help?



They need "informed consent to treatment".

See below,

A MODEL CONSENT FORM FOR PSYCHIATRIC DRUG TREATMENT

I, the undersigned, understand that I am about to be prescribed one or more drugs by Dr. __________________.

The drug(s) I am to be prescribed is (are) the following:
____________________.
____________________.
____________________.
____________________.

I understand that a DSM-IV diagnostic label has been assigned to me, based on my doctor’s (and perhaps also on other people’s) subjective judgment of my speech, manner, and behavior during our meeting, which lasted approximately _____ minutes. I am aware that I will never be able to remove this diagnosis, or any other that will be added in the future, from my medical record.

I understand that although my doctor says that I am sick or that I have a treatable illness or disease, he or she is just using a figure of speech and cannot establish, with any test or procedure known to medical science that I in fact “have” the “illness” implied by the diagnostic label.

Indeed, I am aware that although medical opinion may now hold that a “chemical imbalance,” a “brain abnormality,” or some physical problem “underlies” or “produces” my distress or suffering, no objective information (through lab tests, scans, etc.) concerning the state of my body has been obtained in order to arrive at a DSM-IV diagnosis. If, by chance, such information has been obtained for that purpose, I understand that this information plays no role whatsoever in fulfilling any criteria for any DSM-IV diagnosisor diagnoses that I have been given by my physician except perhaps for diagnoses related to drug-induced disorders such as tardive dyskinesia.

I have been informed that the drug or drugs which my doctor is prescribing cannot cure whatever “illness” or “chemical imbalance” medical opinion might believe I have but can only affect symptoms of my distress or suffering.

I understand that the drug I am about to take cannot restore any of my physical or psychological functions “back to normal.” Rather, the drug is expected to produce many new mental and physical symptoms, which might help make my original complaints seem less disturbing for a while.

I understand that it is exceedingly difficult to determine what is brought about (both desired and unwanted) by a psychoactive drug which has wide and diverse effects on the brain and other organ systems. I further understand that the problem of how to accomplish this adequately is a controversial issue within psychiatry and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

I realize that FDA approval of the drug I am about to take is based upon very short-term studies (usually 6 to 8 weeks) which are designed, paid for, and supervised by the drug’s manufacturer. I further realize that the FDA does not require or expect that a drug’s full range of adverse effects will be known prior to marketing and prior to lengthy exposure of ordinary patients to that drug.

I am also aware that the FDA’s knowledge about the drug’s adverse effects after marketing comes mostly from spontaneous physician reports, the FDA itself recognizes that these reports are just “the tip of the iceberg” of the probable true frequency of adverse effects. I know that wording in the package insert and in the Physician’s Desk Reference is the outcome of a complex negotiation between the manufacturer and the FDA. I also realize that it sometimes occurs that the FDA belatedly learns that the manufacturer has not fully disclosed to the FDA what it actually knows about a drugs’s adverse effects. Finally, I understand that despite FDA approval for psychiatric drugs being granted on the basis of short-term studies, the longer-range consequences of continuing druf use are not systematically studied by any responsible organization or government agency.

If I am consenting to take the drug as part of a research study, I understand that the researcher’s primary interest and loyalty is not to me as a patient and not to my personal interests or welfare. I understand that the “needs of the research project” come before and have priority over my own personal needs.

I understand that the drug will have a wide range of effects on my brain, body, consciousness, emotions, and actions. My sleep, my memory, my judgment, my coordination, my stamina, my sexuality are likely to be affected.

I understand in particular that the effects of a psychoactive drug may undermine my ability to accurately monitor and report upon just how the drug has affected me, even impaired me, perhaps in a dangerous direction (judgment, social perception, impulse control, etc.). I further understand that what to do to protect me, as a patient or subject, against this possibility is a basically unanswered problem in psychiatric drug treatment and research.

I understand that effects that have a 1 in a 100 chance of occurring are actually considered “frequent” effects that should be mentioned to an adult, competent, prospective patient like myself. My doctor (or the researcher) has specifically advised me that the following toxic or adverse reactions may occur, and has provided these estimates of the frequency of their occurrence in patients like me: __________________________________

__________________________________.

I understand that I may experience an adverse effect which might then disappear after a few days or weeks. This disappearance will usually mean that my body has developed a tolerance to the drug’s presence, not that the effect will never bother me again in the future.

I understand that if I inform my doctor of the occurrence of adverse effects, he or she will have five basic options: (a) cease the drug, (b) decrease the dose, (c) increase the dose, (d) switch to another drug, or (e) add another drug. I understand that no rules exist to determine which option is best to follow in individual cases, and it is likely that several options will be followed simultaneously. I also understand that most doctors are not likely to report to the FDA any adverse effect they suspect or have observed, contributing to the generally inadequate picture of a drug’s true impact on patients like me.

I have been informed, if I am prescribed a neuroleptic drug such as Haldol or Risperdal and if I take it regularly for a few years, that I have at least a 30% chance over the next 5 years of developing tardive dyskinesia, a possibly irreversible disorder characterized by abnormal involuntary movements of my face or other body parts. I have been informed that I may also suffer from other acute or chronic movement problems, such as parkinsonism, akathisia, and dystonia, and their associated unpleasant mental states.

I have been informed, if I am prescribed a tranquillizer like Xanax or Klonopin and I take it regularly for more than three or four weeks, that I run the risk of becoming physically dependent on it. I will then have a good chance of experiencing “rebound” insomnia and anxiety, and many other unpleasant sensations, when I try stopping the drug, or even while I continue to take it. I understand that these drugs are not effective antianxiety or sleep-inducing agents after a few weeks of use. I realize that some people are unable to withdraw and must therefore permanently endure the consequences of daily use.

I have been informed that if I am prescribed lithium, I do not have a “lack” of lithium in my body, nor can such a “lack” be demonstrated by any existing test. I understand that the blood tests that I will undergo regularly will be for the sole purpose of determining just how much lithium has been introduced into my bloodstream and whether this could produce toxic symptoms, since, as a result of the mental dullness that lithium is expected to produce, I will be in no position to recognize some of these toxic symptoms.

I understand that the drug is likely to provoke various unpleasant effects when I stop taking it, especially if I stop too suddenly. I understand that although withdrawal reactions are systematically ignored in psychiatric drug treatment or research, they might represent the worst part of my whole drug-taking episode. I further understand that these reactions will often closely resemble the original symptoms for which the drug was prescribed to me, and are likely to be taken for a return of these symptoms (a “relapse”), rather than for withdrawal effects. I realize that my doctor or the researcher is likely to interpret these reactions as a sign that my “illness” is chronic and that my drug is “effective.”

I also understand that once I have been taking drugs for months or years, I will have much difficulty to find a health professional to assist me in withdrawing prudently and safely from the drugs, if I so wish.

Having understood the above, I realize that the drug treatment may cause severe pain or discomfort, worsen my existing problem significantly, or even damage me permanently. However, most doctors or experts will never formally or informally acknowledge that the drug harmed to me in this manner. I will have practically no chance of proving that the drug caused my damage and obtaining compensation.

I understand that no body of research clearly shows that the problems my diagnosis or diagnoses require or respond more favorably to drug treatment than to one or more forms of nondrug treatment. It is obvious to me that nondrug treatment would enable me to completely avoid whatever dangers or risks are associated with taking the drug or drugs I am agreeing to take. My doctor (or the researcher) has made it clear to me that existing evidence does not indicate that it is in my best interest to choose drug treatment as a first recourse.

I am choosing to be treated with (write in the name of the drug or drugs) for the following reasons: (provide ample space; this section must be filled in by the patient or subject):

________________________________________________________________

________________________________________________________________

________________________________________________________________

Signed: __________________________________.





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Re: The truth about pharma-psych is getting out I think

Postby Cheze2 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:21 am

Copy_Cat wrote:
beneficii wrote:What's getting out?


The number of people being harmed by psychiatry's fraudulent labels and the drugs that go with them.

I don't think it's that more people are being harmed, it's just that more people are talking about it and having a voice. People are slowly learning about their rights, and learning that just because they have been diagnosed with a "mental illness" that doesn't mean they have to sit back and take all of the crap that is thrown at them
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Re: The truth about pharma-psych is getting out I think

Postby Razael » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:39 am

most people adversely harmed are too passive to do anything about it. out of their depth
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Re: The truth about pharma-psych is getting out I think

Postby Cheze2 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:46 am

Razael wrote:most people adversely harmed are too passive to do anything about it

because the mental health field made them that way. UGH it gets me so angry. :evil:
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