The truth about pharma-psych is getting out I think

Cheze2 wrote:Let the conversation resume!

I would like to know what false information charter or anyone thinks is in the consent form.

Lets pick it apart line by line.

Here is a link to page one of this topic where I posted it to speed things up (open in new tab or window) for fast copy pasting of this alleged false information and then why its false information.

http://www.psychforums.com/anti-psych/topic117235.html

-- Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:18 pm --

Razael wrote:most people adversely harmed are too passive to do anything about it. out of their depth

I know, when I was in that one nasty abusive hospital that inspired me to take this "fight back" online some people would yell in the hall "Im going to sue this place" in face of abuse, but most just took it as one more bad thing that happened in there life to endure or blamed themselves or blamed bad luck.

copy_cat, I think I already told you this once. You are right, but why do you care so much?

Instead of crying, complaining, raging, etc, stop for two minutes and ask yourself WHY things are as they are. Why they were fated to end like this. And why stupid people will always exist.

These are the important questions and if you weren't so concerned searching for validation you'd understand this.

I just responded above to razeal with the answer.

-- Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:24 pm --

Etzel wrote: Why they were fated to end like this.

Fated ? What does that mean ?

Is that like on Terminator 2 when Sara Conner carves in the table "No fate" ?

I don't get it.

And your answer was that you are only "fighting" because you are choking with resentment, looking for revenge of some sort and want everyone to believe you are Perfectly Normal™ and definitely Not Crazy™, so you force-feed everyone your believes.

Just sit back, shut the EDIT up and try to understand why things are as they are. It's okay, the worst is over and nobody thinks you're crazy (well at least I don't — and you should feel proud about this).

Etzel wrote:Just sit back, shut the fúck up

People who do that are always the ones who get it in the rear,
They use that saying "it is what it is" (the battle cry of loosers) and just take it.

Many people are fighting back with cyber activism, Example: http://www.madinamerica.com

The bloggers on this site include people with lived experience, peer specialists, psychiatrists, psychologists, social workers, program managers, social activists, attorneys, and journalists. While their opinions naturally vary, they share a belief that our current system of psychiatric care needs to be vastly improved, and, many would argue, transformed.

And unless they all start staging coup d'etats to dismantle democracy in their countries, they will accomplish the astounding feat of doing nothing. lol, bloggers. lol, cyber activism. Yeah, right.

But today is your lucky day, since I'll help you. I searched the previous thread in which I asked why you were doing all this, and found your answer: Human rights.

Now... can you imagine a world with no human rights? Yes, that's right, it's our world. Your "rights" are merely privileges you deceive your superiors into giving you. In reality there's no such thing as "rights".

You are stuck doing what you think is "right" (i.e. what you think is Good). But have you ever asked yourself why is your "right", right? Could it be perhaps that your Good is precisely my Evil?

Copy_Cat wrote:People who do that are always the ones who get it in the rear,
They use that saying "it is what it is" (the battle cry of loosers) and just take it.

And, again, we don't disagree on this either! —You are simply fighting the wrong fight, that's what I mean.

Etzel wrote:they will accomplish the astounding feat of doing nothing. lol, bloggers. lol, cyber activism. Yeah, right.

Tell that to the Pharma companies paying billions in fines for selling dangerous medication with fraud cause of activists.

Example: http://zyprexakills.ath.cx/

I.e. nothing.

Etzel wrote:You are simply fighting the wrong fight, that's what I mean.

What do you mean ?

@Cheze - thanks for modding and defeating spam

@Copy_Cat

Agreed, good plan, let's get back to the text.

"I understand that the drug will have a wide range of effects on my brain, body, consciousness, emotions, and actions."

Note that here the claim is that all psych meds will affect brain and body and consciousness and emotions and actions.

To support that claim, you will need to provide evidence that every psych med in existence, at any dosage (however small), affects all of those things for all service users.

"My sleep, my memory, my judgment, my coordination, my stamina, my sexuality are likely to be affected."

Let's define "likely to be affected" as "occurring in over 50% of service users".

To defend that sentence, you would need to provide evidence that all psych meds in existence, at any dosage (however small), produce effects on all of the listed things, in over 50% of service users.

I don't know if those two sentences are ones you would class as "harshly worded". I class them as "wrong".