Injection threats inpatient , call the bluff ?

dont know how anyone could get out of the situation once the quacks determine a person to need treatment any refusal juust made out to lack insight to excuse having them on involuntary treatment order then have to have injections whether you like it or not...

you very lucky copycat to get out of it I think, so is anyone else in that situation, It wouldn't happen much

Hi Rod, I think we made our point on the those points even with the moderation of the better parts.

I posted the link on my post above to the webpage explaining psychiatry's cold and sterile explanation for inpatient abuse, it bothers me how the lie to families and the public all those drugs are coerced cause patients 'lack insight' for needed "medical care". Its a flat out lie.

It clearly lists medication refusal as justification for extra medication, intermittent observation, constant observation, show of force, manual restraint, coerced injections of medication, seclusion...

If I was such a danger for refusing there 'medication' I should at least have the choice of the 'rubber room' over the chemical rape if the issue is safety.

The 'rubber room' is outside my body, the chemical rape drug injection is inside my body. That's a great big difference, that's HUGE in my book .

Psychiatry should read about a thing called "Bodily integrity".

Bodily integrity is the inviolability of the physical body and emphasises the importance of personal autonomy and the self-determination of human beings over their own bodies. It considers the violation of bodily integrity as an unethical infringement, intrusive, and possibly criminal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodily_integrity

Hi Razeal , I just saw your post when I pressed submit on this reply.

I did get lucky , I came real close to a real bad scene getting much worse. There is no need to treat people this way WTF !

A Literature Review: Refusal
of Psychotropic Medication
in Acute Inpatient
Psychiatric Care
Report from the Conflict and Containment
Reduction Research Programme

http://www.kcl.ac.uk/iop/depts/hspr/research/ciemh/mhn/projects/litreview/LitRevMedsref.pdf

40 pages on the subject.

It depends on the situation you never know what these people are really after so you should do whatever it takes. They stuck me with a dirty needle, it was not an injection it was more like a quick prick. Someone forcing a needle into your body is dangerous business and should not be happening.

that link copy cat if anyone read some of it is all about how disturbed people are for refusing antipsychotic http://www.kcl.ac.uk/iop/depts/hspr/res ... df...would be good to see what lense the mainstream veiw it...can't really quote the articla but its disgusting.

"Though
there
is
evidence
that
certain
symptoms
of
psychosis,
its
severity,
and
higher
mood
elevation
play
a
role
in
treatment
rejection,
refusal
of
medication
might
also
contribute
to
the
severity
of
symptoms.
There
is
evidence
that
refusers
of
antipsychotic
medication
are
sicker
and
are
extremely
disturbed.
On
the
other
hand
the
causal
effects
work
in
both
directions
as
illness
severity
characterised
by
delusions,
hostility
and
unmanageable
behaviour,
and
paranoid
thinking
leads
to
refusal
just
as
refusal
of
medication
causes
severity
of
the
illness.
The
patients
with
severe
symptoms
will
be
less
likely
to
acknowledge
their
illness
and
the
need
for
treatment

thats from the articla, sorry cut and paste didn't work, only on each line did it come out..you get the drift what this artic\al is about and the way the professionals veiw resistance as a psychotic feature...it says it better in the previous paragraaph.

Moreover,
refusers
gave
grandiosity,
delusion,
and
psychotic
denial
as
reasons
for
refusing
medication

isn't this just typical, the reasearchers are obviously biased and see the person through a lense of the illness in interpreting the reasons for refusal, and they make out they aer sicker then everyone else too..typical
thats what is in that artical anyway.

-- Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:19 pm --

"psychotic denial" lol anyway that artical was good for a laugh in places.

Most likely one who is refusing treatemtn the nurses will note that you are suspicious and thus paranoid..isn't it discgusting how stupid and insightless the profession is

Razael wrote:isn't it discgusting how stupid and insightless the profession is

It really is, but that could be fixed.

A police officer who wishes to carry a Taser is required to — as it were — take a shot of their own medicine. The point is to let the officer know what the sensation feels like before using it in the field.

They should make "doctors" who prescribe things like Haldol take the drug for a week to know what these so called "medications" feel like themselves.

That would surely solve their problem of insight into patient medication refusal.