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The psych industry never ever sais "sorry".

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:53 pm

Type the name of any psych drug into search and add the word "lawsuit" ...

Type the name of any psych drug into search and add the word "withdrawal"...

Type the name of any psych drug into search and add the word "death"...

Then add up the results.

Millions sickened, lives destroyed , once healthy people damaged forever and uncounted deaths including many many children but not one apology ever from the psych industry, ever.

They have have absolutely no conscience, no sense of right or wrong, no guilt, shame, empathy, or anything within the usual set of characteristics that make someone human. None of them.

The latest I saw is the Zyprexa relprevv injection deaths , want to bet there lawyers will deny all wrong doing, evidence they covered up stuff will be uncovered and no one will go to jail again like the first time they got busted for criminal behavior and just paid a fine for pushing deadly Zyprexa ?

Think there is going to be any apology ? Ya right.

CCHR named it right, Psychiatry is an "industry of death".
I survived psychiatry.
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Re: The psych industry never ever sais "sorry".

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:23 pm

Correction, found some Im sorry

Psychiatrist Joseph Biederman is credited with the explosion of young children diagnosed with “bipolar” disorder and prescribed powerful antipsychotic drugs. He was paid 1.6 million from the pharmaceutical companies for his “research.”

Biederman is the poster boy for no personal accountability. Despite his obvious lapse in ethical behavior, not only was he not run out of the profession but he got to keep every penny of his $1.6 million in pharmaceutical largesse.

Source : http://www.cchrint.org/tag/joseph-biederman/

Read his "apology" letter on web.archive below , what do you think ?

http://web.archive.org/web/201107081106 ... 1b1ea1.pdf


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Thalidomide apology insulting, campaigners say
The company which invented thalidomide has "insulted" those affected by the drug by issuing an "insincere" apology 50 years later, campaigners have said. The drug, sold in the 1950s as a cure for morning sickness, was linked to birth defects and withdrawn in 1961.

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I'm sorry for saying "never" I apologize.

-- Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:32 pm --

Wait " Im sorry" the biderman letter doesn't say "sorry" or apologize at all !!!

And a pill for morning sickness is not really a psych drug anyway and doesn't count.

I'm sorry for saying sorry when I said sorry when I thought I was wrong saying "never" .

I apologize .
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Re: The psych industry never ever sais "sorry".

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:33 pm

They NEVER say sorry.
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Re: The psych industry never ever sais "sorry".

Postby Ditoros » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:37 pm

There's been some people who committed suicide after finding out they were involved in destroying people's lives. The irony being that people who actually have moral feeling are weeded out while the people who love to use and destroy others' lives for mere pleasure live on.
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Re: The psych industry never ever sais "sorry".

Postby Cledwyn Bulbs » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:39 pm

What more evidence do you need that it's a self-serving profession? When the sticks are down, the self-preservation instinct takes over, and they usually just blame the victims, because their victims are powerless enough to allow such patent victim-blaming to go unnoticed.

Of course, this doesn't comport well with the theory (which has hardened into dogma) that most psychiatrists mean well. Usually they only mean well and have good intentions when the patient's interest are in alignment with their own. If on the other hand there is a conflict of interest between patient and psychiatrist, the psychiatrist all most without fail will pursue his/her own interests, to the detriment of his/her patient. This is the ugly, unpalatable truth the "good intentions" brigade cannot abide.

These people are eternally unrepentant criminals. It's always someone else's fault. If the patient complains about having been traumatized and tortured by the ostensible treatments imposed upon them for their presumed illness, the patient is ungrateful, or even worse, they pull out the diagnostic trump card, saying it is a manifestation of the patient's illness, which of course, tells one everything one needs to know about the strategic and practical import of psychiatric diagnosis. If the patient complains about the weight problems, he's/she's told to get some exercise. If the patient complains about the withdrawal syndrome which patients are still not being informed of (because psychiatrists have buried their heads in the sands to escape dealing with the problems they have caused), the patients are told it is all in their heads. And what about the tardive dyskinesia debacle? For decades they blamed it on the patient's illness, and there has never been an apology for this or the original harm done, nothing in the way of atonement, which only compounds the suffering of the victim.

These people just bandy about terms like "good intentions" to render more palatable the bitter pill of their moral cynicism and bankruptcy, as well as their emotional and spiritual poverty, and their careerism. Generally speaking, they are in it for what they can get out of it, and pleading good intentions whenever it is expedient to do so, using the gullibility and naivety of others as a lever to escape responsibility for their actions.
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Re: The psych industry never ever sais "sorry".

Postby Ditoros » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:16 pm

I personally never had such a bad experience with a psychologist, and I've shopped around. There was one male who was more aggressive and seemed like a blamer, but another male and three females ranged from realistically objective to overwhelmingly supportive.
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Re: The psych industry never ever sais "sorry".

Postby Cledwyn Bulbs » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:24 pm

I haven't had such problems with psychologists, but with psychiatrists.
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Re: The psych industry never ever sais "sorry".

Postby Cledwyn Bulbs » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:00 pm

Don't get me wrong I have had one or two seemingly nice and supportive psychiatrists, but I am not easily taken in by appearances. People wear all sorts of masks to negotiate their way in society. Regardless of the impressions I take away with me from meetings with individual psychiatrists, to me, these people, if they are to be taken seriously in their professions of concern, compassion, and other such words with pleasant emotional connotations that take the sting out of being a selfish careerist whose allegiance to one's career is greater than one's allegiance to suffering humanity, then they would do well to remove their cooperation from a tyranny that depends for its subsistence upon such people, people who may plead ignorance when they have occasion to do so, but in an age of unprecedented access to information, I think it is folly to assert, as some do, that they are victims of erroneous beliefs (their ignorance is a choice). Anyway, regardless of the characteristics of individual psychiatrists (I'm referring to state psychiatrists who practice heteronomous psychiatry, not autonomous practitioners, who I have little beef with), the fact remains that they have allowed themselves to become enmeshed in an institution which decreases the individual's latitude for self-expression, ergo they are mere cogs in the vast pernicious machinery of the Mental Health system, and I don't trust them.
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Re: The psych industry never ever sais "sorry".

Postby KINDNESSTHERAPY » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:54 pm

After reading your replies, you seem to have such hatred for this industry (Justified). Why am I not reading about human beings with mental illness taking the law into their own hands and giving out the same pain and suffering and false hope etc. to these supposed mental health professionals....???
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Re: The psych industry never ever sais "sorry".

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:37 pm

KINDNESSTHERAPY wrote:After reading your replies, you seem to have such hatred for this industry (Justified). Why am I not reading about human beings with mental illness taking the law into their own hands and giving out the same pain and suffering and false hope etc. to these supposed mental health professionals....???


It does happen ,

"The possibility of being stalked, threatened, or assaulted by a patient is a concern for many therapists and an occupational risk for all. For example, in Ethics in Psychotherapy and Counseling: A Practical Guide, Fourth Edition (2011), Melba Vasquez and I reviewed research indicating that:


    Almost one in every 5 psychologists reported having been physically attacked by at least one client.

    Over 80% of the psychologists reported having been afraid that a client would attack them.

    Over half reported having had fantasies that a client would attack.

    Over one out of 4 had summoned the police or security personnel for protection from a client.

    About 3% reported obtaining a weapon to protect themselves against a client.
"

Read more , http://kspope.com/stalking.php

One cannot say that revenge is mean or cruel, just as one cannot say that one who engages in it is a bad person. Revenge is merely one person's idea of "justice", and therefore it is always "justifiable", if only to the person performing it, who is retaliating for a wrong they believe has been done to them. Absent evidence to the contrary, or inappropriate use of force by them, there are few people who have a moral leg to stand on; if anyone has never felt the urge to avenge a wrong done them or someone they care for, they have led a rather shallow life.

Surprised it doesn't happen more considering the large numbers of people every year who are "baker acted" or "5150ed " That more mental workers don't get there asses kicked by people who didn't like there lockup , strip search and coerced drugging called help when former patients see them on the street away from there panic buttons and nuero needles..

For me I believe "the pen is mightier than the sword" and write about the fraud of psychiatry.
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