Antidepressants can cause bipolar

Copy_Cat, what about this link? Could you explain your reasons for posting it, or your reactions to it? Otherwise, this would be considered advertising.

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Cheze2 wrote:Copy_Cat, what about this link? Could you explain your reasons for posting it, or your reactions to it? Otherwise, this would be considered advertising.

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Could you post what the DSM-5 says on antidepressants and bipolar?

beneficii wrote:Copy_Cat, what about this link? Could you explain your reasons for posting it, or your reactions to it? Otherwise, this would be considered advertising.

My first med was an antidepressant after my insomnia was "a symptom of depression" setting the whole pill nighmare into action.

I have read on forums at least 100 times statements from people "I had a manic reaction to anti depressants therefor I am bipolar" using many mixes of words. Its not true but then the next pill gets added...

The worst is parents writing this in on those "is my child ADHD or bipolar ??" threads.

STOP DRUGGING THE CHILD ! Read your own posts ! Your making the kid into a chronic mental patient and he she is not getting better, but worse as the pills pile on !

Take a parenting class and put away the pills.

Or try some of the pills on yourself first to at least have a small clue what the small child feels taking them !

Copy_Cat wrote:

beneficii wrote:Copy_Cat, what about this link? Could you explain your reasons for posting it, or your reactions to it? Otherwise, this would be considered advertising.

My first med was an antidepressant after my insomnia was "a symptom of depression" setting the whole pill nighmare into action.

I have read on forums at least 100 times statements from people "I had a manic reaction to anti depressants therefor I am bipolar" using many mixes of words. Its not true but then the next pill gets added...

The worst is parents writing this in on those "is my child ADHD or bipolar ??" threads.

STOP DRUGGING THE CHILD ! Read your own posts ! Your making the kid into a chronic mental patient and he she is not getting better, but worse as the pills pile on !

Take a parenting class and put away the pills.

A satirical view of our prescription drug culture by David Antonuccio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UnJ4H8JLmM

To make clear, you're responding to Cheze2 and not to me.

Cheze2 wrote:Copy_Cat, what about this link? Could you explain your reasons for posting it, or your reactions to it? Otherwise, this would be considered advertising.

Thanks

This link backs up my statement cause the researchers looked at online postings same as I did.

"Patient Online Report of Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor-Induced Persistent Post withdrawal Anxiety and Mood Disorders"

http://www.karger.com/Article/FullText/341178



You need to work on those mind reading skills !

Copy_Cat wrote:I have read so many posts "I had a manic reaction to anti depressants so that means I'm bipolar".

Copy_Cat wrote:You need to work on those mind reading skills !

I'll add that to my to do list

beneficii wrote:Could you post what the DSM-5 says on antidepressants and bipolar?

I completely forgot Friday. I'm sorry. I will add this to my real to do list for Monday

Consider this checked off my to do list!

Under the Bipolar I: Mania section it lists several criteria.

Criteria D: The episode is not attributable to the physiological effects of a substance (e.g. a drug of abuse, a medication, other treatment) or to another medical condition.
Note: A full manic episode that emerges during antidepressant treatment (e.g. medication, electroconvulsive therapy) but persists at a fully syndromal level beyond the physiological effect of that treatment is sufficient evidence of a manic episode and, therefore, a Bipolar I diagnosis.

Under the Bipolar II: Hypomania section again it lists several criteria.

Criteria F: The episode is not attributable to the physiological effects of a substance (e.g. a drug of abuse, a medication, other treatment).
Note: A full hypomanic episode that emerges during antidepressant treatment (e.g. medication, electroconvulsive therapy) but persists at a fully syndromal level beyond the physiological effect of that treatment is sufficient evidence of a hypomanic episode diagnosis. However, caution is indicated so that one or two symptoms (particularly in creased irritability, edginess, or agitation following antidepressant use) are not taken as sufficient for diagnosis of a hypomanic episode, not necessarily indicative of a bipolar diathesis.

Let the comments reign in on that

Cheze2 wrote:Consider this checked off my to do list!

Under the Bipolar I: Mania section it lists several criteria.

Criteria D: The episode is not attributable to the physiological effects of a substance (e.g. a drug of abuse, a medication, other treatment) or to another medical condition.
Note: A full manic episode that emerges during antidepressant treatment (e.g. medication, electroconvulsive therapy) but persists at a fully syndromal level beyond the physiological effect of that treatment is sufficient evidence of a manic episode and, therefore, a Bipolar I diagnosis.

Under the Bipolar II: Hypomania section again it lists several criteria.

Criteria F: The episode is not attributable to the physiological effects of a substance (e.g. a drug of abuse, a medication, other treatment).
Note: A full hypomanic episode that emerges during antidepressant treatment (e.g. medication, electroconvulsive therapy) but persists at a fully syndromal level beyond the physiological effect of that treatment is sufficient evidence of a hypomanic episode diagnosis. However, caution is indicated so that one or two symptoms (particularly in creased irritability, edginess, or agitation following antidepressant use) are not taken as sufficient for diagnosis of a hypomanic episode, not necessarily indicative of a bipolar diathesis.

Let the comments reign in on that

" beyond the physiological effect of that treatment is sufficient evidence "

Sneaky Sneaky words !

Here is evidence right from the side effects list itself , This is for the antidepressant wellbutrin

Psychiatric side effects have frequently included anxiety (6%), nervousness, agitation, depression, irritability, derealization, and hypomania. Depersonalization, emotional lability, hostility, suicidal ideation, aggression, delusions, euphoria, hallucinations, manic reaction, nightmares, paranoid ideation, delirium, psychosis, organic mental disorders, catatonia, restlessness, and completed suicide have been reported rarely.

The Australian Adverse Drug Reaction Advisory Committee reported that 285 of the 780 reports it received in association with bupropion through mid-May 2001 involved psychological disturbances.

[url]Read more at http://www.drugs.com/sfx/wellbutrin-side-effects.html[/url]

Psychiatric

Psychiatric side effects Effexor-xr have included visual hallucinations, hypomania, and mania.

Psychiatric side effects reported in premarketing Phase 3 trials have included emotional lability, delusions, euphoria, hallucinations, manic reaction, psychosis, suicidal ideation, abnormal/changed behavior, homicidal ideation, paranoid reaction, and psychotic depression.

Read more at http://www.drugs.com/sfx/effexor-xr-side-effects.html

I haven't checked every single last one, but don't all anti depressants have these side effects ?