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Hello there,
I need some insight from both sides of the thinking pot here. What is correct, from two strong standpoints of for and against medications? I can only speak for experiences. I was anti-medicine, thought my problems were lack of nutrition and a hormone imbalance. Rejected meds, but then got put on a court order to have to take them mandatory. And they helped immensely! I was not hiding in my room hanging out with razor blades, or continuously sitting in my chair looking at the floor. Wonderful! I found my bliss everyday. So go medicines!, I thought. But then they wanted me on an anti-psychotic med, which when taken made me feel drowsy and oafish. Creativity was muffled, expressions, emotions were dull and blunt. Felt like being depressed again, but only with knowing that I wanted to get stuff done, so it was contradicting. So I became defiant, and started avoiding the nurses at my door. Trying to explain to the doctors that this path was hindering. The meds were no good. She then told me all about how people will go into manic phases and when they eventually do come out of it, they will loose brain cells. She says if i don't take the meds, I will loose more and more brain cells after every episode. Is this true? Please someone confirm this if anyone can? Thank you! What does it mean to be pro-SSRI and against all other mental illness drugs? Thank you for any input, and please do chip in!

TheObserver wrote:She then told me all about how people will go into manic phases and when they eventually do come out of it, they will loose brain cells. She says if i don't take the meds, I will loose more and more brain cells after every episode. Is this true?

This is the first that I've heard of this so I did a little searching.

This first one is just a quick article
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 050603.php

Here is the actual study (It's rather wordy)
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/article ... Discussion

Here's another article that I believe is talking about a different study:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 103036.htm

According to these, it looks like that could be the case...I hope others are able to find evidence on the contrary. This gets me down a bit, though could explain some of the cognitive decline I have felt as I have gotten older..

Brain Damage!

Not taking there pills causes brain damage ??? What a mega-load of drug pushing bull !

Those drug company ghost writers come up with the wildest ideas !

Search the web "anti psychotics brain damage"

http://www.google.com/search?q=antipsychotics+brain+damage

Check out this from mindfreedom,

"In the past two decades, countless medical studies have shown that use of neuroleptic psychiatric drugs (also known as antipsychotics) is associated with structural brain changes, especially when taking high dosages for a long time. These brain changes can include actual shrinkage of the higher level parts of the brain. The shrinkage can be seen in brain scans and autopsy studies. In response to industry defenders who claim that this shrinkage is from the "mental illness," studies show neuroleptics lead to similar brain changes in animals. While the medical side of large libraries has this information, the public media side of the library does not. In other words, the public, patients and their families are not being informed about what medicine has long known."

Read all about it http://www.mindfreedom.org/kb/psychiatric-drugs/antipsychotics/neuroleptic-brain-damage

TheObserver wrote:But then they wanted me on an anti-psychotic med, which when taken made me feel drowsy and oafish. Creativity was muffled, expressions, emotions were dull and blunt.

How does that help ??

I lived the psychiatric nightmare, I fell for the lies of biological psychiatry, the pills, withdrawal reactions called symptoms and finally coercive psychiatry . Then I learned about anti psychiatry (the truth) and it saved my ass from possibly many more years of believing there lies and accepting there miserable treatments that made me nothing but addicted, dependent, drugged , zombified and sick.

Anti psychiatry saved me, learn all you can.

http://www.google.com/search?q=the+truth+about+psychiatry

Im not pro or anti med , just pro truth.

I am wondering if mental health professionals especially psychiatrist will one day be tired of being plain wrong the whole time.....they are indocrinated into the industry of ignorance definately, and the drug company alliance makes sure we have these little popular myths about mental illness and the drugs for the mental health workers to use in distorting reality and getting people on the drugs for life and forget what its like to be normal, and worse they are wrong and blame the effeccts of the drugs on the apparent illness. so frustrating, they must be getting tired of being wrong all the time ignorant bastards.... I am certain that the drugs cause problems with cognition, it is how they are effective to begin with, none of this magical thinking about them being good for symptoms or good for anything for that matter.....

I experienced an awakening like you with nurses then cops at my door that broke in, was feeling joy and love and my humour returned now it doesn't mean anything and I supposed to buy the idea that I was really unwell without my meds, there is contrast between my stage 1week overdue when I got agitated at the registrar and 2weeks oveerdue when I was cool calm and collected at hospital, they only remember it the way ignorance has it to say I was unwell

it is a myth that psychosis causes brain damage, maybe sleep deprivation could cause problems and I am with you that the problem can be a lot simpler then resorting to myth about chemical imbalance and yeah half the reason they are effective in making zombie is the hormonal problems associated to AP.

So its a myth, sorry I wrote so much

the drugs cause atrophy since the higher mind is not in use it slowly dies, the body adjusts to the meds and makes for trouble coming off them....higher density of dopamine in shrunken brain.

quacks don't know, they are ignorant bastards that is about time they be tired of using their myths to control vulnerable people and being wrong the whole damn time, I never found a mental health worker say anything I resonate with and think, oh cool they really know what they are on about, they don't know $#%^, they are doing the dirty work for the drug industry and a lot of time and money goes into hiding the truth ad keeping up the ignorance,

I recently found shankhpushpi an ayurvedic herb awakens the mind and might help brain damage associated to antipsychotic and brahmi too i am using but the shankhpushpi is what I think is working against the antipschotics to balance my mind from the out of balance chemical imbalance and brain damage of the antipsychotics....I can't get enough of it....so it revealed higher portions of the mind yet this part is stagnant at least I can witness having it there. just no use to me until i can repair the damage off the drugs if that ever happens.... I\'m on involuntary order too because I apparently don't believe I am mentally ill either, its logical, more they take people who don't like the medication and refuse which is there right, to put them on order saying they obviously dont have insight coz they are refusing treatments....again just ignorant quacks