Is it possible to find or buy the diagnostic tests psycs use

I really don't know what I have specifically. But I really don't trust psych professionals because I have seen many family members and friends completely f*cked up from psych meds, permanent brain damage, permanent health problems... I am not even willing to go there and that seems to be all they (psycs) know how to do is push drugs. Listen and nod and take out their scrip :p I am not interested in that crap. However it's gotten to a point where I really need to figure out what it is and how to treat it non-psych-medicinally, I'd just rather do that on my own... is there anywhere I can find or purchase the psychiatric diagnostic tests they have? I'm so overwhelmed and lost every day.

It depends on what type of test you are looking for. Here is a website which lists the different type of tests used to test different things (ie. memory, intelligence etc.).
http://dredf.org/special_education/Assesments_chart.pdf

Many psychiatrists don't do any type of testing in order to come to a diagnosis. It is often a subjective diagnosis based on their interpretation of the symptoms one describes.

Those are special education tests on the chart Cheze2 :p My son has undergone a number of them but they are unrelated to the kind of tests I am talking about, but yes I am certain there are actual diagnostic (basically psyc version of personality) tests that psychiatrists use- I took one in the past, I've even seen some kind of website online where psychiatrists can order tests from to determine diagnosis but laypeople can't order. I'm looking for something in the area of personality or avoidant disorders, also as APD and schizoeffective I have heard many times are very similar...

-- Thu May 23, 2013 10:33 am --

I can't find the tests now but years ago I did see them online How am I supposed to tell what I have so I can treat it when several of these things have really similar symptoms? The DSM is not clear enough to me...

ProbssesorX wrote:I can't find the tests now but years ago I did see them online How am I supposed to tell what I have so I can treat it when several of these things have really similar symptoms? The DSM is not clear enough to me...

I would advise against diagnosing and treating things yourself. I can understand that you do not agree with taking psychiatric medications as do many people here in the anti psych forum. However there are other types of professionals such as a homeopathic/naturopathic doctor who may be more along your lines of belief. There are a lot of issues that can occur from misdiagnosis, so I would leave that to a professional.

ProbssesorX wrote:I really don't know what I have specifically.

You don't realy "have" anything.

I understand that although a psychiatrist once said that I was sick and that I "have" a treatable illness or disease, he or she was just using a figure of speech and could not establish, with any test or procedure known to medical science that I in fact "have" the "illness" implied by the diagnostic label.

There are no lab tests, brain scans, X-rays or chemical imbalance tests that can verify any mental disorder is a physical condition. This is not to say that people do not get depressed, or that people can’t experience emotional or mental duress, psychiatry has just repackaged these emotions and behaviors as “disease” in order to sell drugs.

Psychiatry’s diagnostic criteria are literally voted into existence and inserted into the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for Mental Disorders (DSM). What is voted in is a system of classification of symptoms that is drastically different from, and foreign to, anything in medicine. None of the diagnoses are supported by objective evidence of physical disease with medical testing, ever.


Maybe what you need is some informed consent to treatment? check out this link

http://laingsociety.org/colloquia/polofdiagnosis/modelconsent.htm

My son has ADHD which is considered a neurobehavioral disorder and it is genetic, science has proven ADHD can be genetic, I have seen the studies myself.

It is true that we are all different and every one of us could fit into one of these "boxes" which admitted were created for the purpose of profit, however I personally think the boxes do make sense to types of personalities and perceptions if you take away the greed reasoning for creating them. Even if they are not actually diseases, labels HELP if you don't allow them to rule you, because then you know what you are dealing with and can do so accordingly, the best way that works for you as an individual.

ProbssesorX wrote:My son has ADHD which is considered a neurobehavioral disorder and it is genetic, science has proven ADHD can be genetic, I have seen the studies myself.

Psychiatrists claim that brain scans now show brain changes that "prove" mental disorders, such as schizophrenia and depression, are brain-based. There is no scientific evidence to prove this: it remains what the "fine print" in the studies tell you: "suggests," "may" and "it is hoped."

No gene for a psychiatric condition has ever been found, in spite of popular misinformation.

There is no test for anyone at any price , not even the super rich.

I like the new term "neurobehavioral disorder", they just have to use that word "neuro" to make drugging sound like medical treatment for disease.

I generally don't get involved in these types of discussions because each person is different etc., and I don't have any personal experence taking these kind of meds and or dealing with these supposed mental health professionals...

That being said, the line of discussion here is very interesting because why can't their be tests for different kinds of mental illness. Many clients feel that they don't have a mental problem so a test could help change their minds. How about clients being able to prove that the supposed mental health professional is full of S... , and or they are correct in their professional opinion. How about we bring the whole mental health Industry out of their -GOD- like attitudes toward the clients and family and caregivers etc.. How much harm can we have by doing this self testing because everybody agrees that over 50% of clients are misdiagnosed....

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/09/ ... UD20100930

People are going to believe what they want to believe but I did not post this as an argument and I am not going to respond to any more arguments about it topically, it was a straight forward question you do not need to drag your personal theology into it (frankly I really don't care). Anyone who has an answer for me about diagnostic tests I would be grateful.

-- Fri May 24, 2013 11:22 am --

KINDNESSTHERAPY I agree with you, I think it could be useful...

Sorry no tests,

The Difference Between Medical Disease & Psychiatric Disorder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3JQ8OVHVWA

Meanwhile, kids who prefer to explore their surroundings and chatter (as thousands of years of evolution prepared them to do) instead of sitting still listening to teachers are labelled as “suffering from ADHD” and drugged.


Thom Hartmann's Hunter and Farmer Approach to ADD/ADHD http://www.thomhartmann.com/articles/2007/11/thom-hartmanns-hunter-and-farmer-approach-addadhd