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Re: Is it possible to find or buy the diagnostic tests psycs

Postby ProbssesorX » Sat May 25, 2013 3:15 am

There are some "tests" out there.. http://asp.cumc.columbia.edu/SAD/

I am not responding to Copy_Cat as he apparently has a reading comprehension problem and an inability to respect boundaries. :P
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Re: Is it possible to find or buy the diagnostic tests psycs

Postby Copy_Cat » Sat May 25, 2013 4:23 pm

ProbssesorX wrote:There are some "tests" out there.. http://asp.cumc.columbia.edu/SAD/

I am not responding to Copy_Cat as he apparently has a reading comprehension problem and an inability to respect boundaries. :P



Nice link to those drug pushers at Columbia University, the makers of "Teenscreen" used to false label and make big bucks drugging children.

"TeenScreen was a highly controversial, aggressive, medically dubious mental health screening protocol developed with federal funding by Dr. David Shaffer, chief of child psychiatry at Columbia University. It was administered by Laurie Flynn, former Executive Director of NAMI (National Alliance for Mental Illness) who ushered in the pharmaceutical take-over of the organization.

From its inception, TeenScreen was a flawed tool that misidentified 83% of the time, normal adolescents as having undiagnosed mental illnesses which (it was claimed) put them at risk of suicide. In 2004, Dr. Shaffer acknowledged in his published article that "in practice a specificity of 0.83 would deliver many who were not at risk for suicide, and that could reduce the acceptability of a school-based prevention program"

Read more http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/886/70/

Reading comprehension problem ? what part of "anti psych forum" don't you comprehend ? "Anti" I guess.


Its so common for people to react this way to the truth about psychiatry, it goes like this:

Debating in the anti psych forum, Q&A example:

1. What do psychoactive drugs do?
A: They change brain chemistry.
2. Why do you want to change the brain chemistry of small children?
A: Their brain chemistry is flawed.

3. What biologically based test do you use to determine that this is so?
A: We do not use such tests.

4. Why not?
A: There are no valid tests available.

5. How then do you diagnose and prescribe?
A: We use behavioral tests.

6. Are you saying that merely by observing a child's behavior you can tell exactly what problems he has with his or her brain chemistry and then prescribe the correct substance in the precise dose needed to correct it?

A: That's the theory.

7. Why do you suggest to some parents that they give their children a vacation from these drugs on the weekends and on holidays, including summer vacation?
A: These children have their biggest problems in the school environment.

8. Are you suggesting that the brain chemistry of these children is different on the weekend than it is Monday through Friday?
A: The problems are often more acute in the school environment.

9. Why do you think it is that countries with better health care systems and longer life spans than ours (Japan, Sweden, and Switzerland, for example) prescribe almost no Psych meds for their children and that the US and Canada consume over 85% of the world's supply of these drugs?

A: They are not as advanced as we are in the diagnosis and treatment of mental Illness as we are.

10. Since you have no biologically based test for the drugs you are prescribing and there is no scientifically valid evidence that proves these drugs are effective or even safe, how can you claim that your science on this subject is superior?

A: I'm an "expert". How dare you, You apparently have a reading comprehension problem and an inability to respect boundaries...
I survived psychiatry.
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Re: Is it possible to find or buy the diagnostic tests psycs

Postby Cheze2 » Sun May 26, 2013 12:35 pm

Copy_cat,
This person is asking a simple question. Let's stay on topic.
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Re: Is it possible to find or buy the diagnostic tests psycs

Postby akber » Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:38 am

ProbssesorX wrote:There are some "tests" out there.. http://asp.cumc.columbia.edu/SAD/

I am not responding to Copy_Cat as he apparently has a reading comprehension problem and an inability to respect boundaries. :P


I am very SAD about my SAD ( social anxiety disorder) I am very shy but after taking above test i got 65 and from anxiety disorder test i got 80 so i am going to treat my my SAdness.
http://testmyquiz.com/anxiety-test/ I got 80 from this test.
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