Trying to explain the psych scam offline in the real world

thats just how the powers that be want it, they want lay experts that actually know all that the quacks know about scienc of dopamine and seritonin...its annoying that people buy into it ...I think they should know the truth but its a comfort thing that they are taught to trust the quacks and medical industry marketing the pseudo-theories of brain chemistry to sell drugs...the drug companies are the powers that be making us all think #######4 about their science...just they are stuck in the dark ages of pseudo-science.....maybe some find relief and not such a bad time with the effects of these drugs and believe they actually help and must be verified someohow...I find my normal function I can expect between episodes is seriously cut short and evidence that I have dopamine abnormality from the drugs, its obvious, I know twhat the drugs are about, I know what dopamine is about and this puts me leaps and bounds infront of the quack believing the marketing hype about pharmaceutical intent on dealing with symptoms yet they just make me more disorganised and less integrity in communications including writing skill to paint a picture to my desires in creativity and fully function cognition that is reliant on good dopamine functioning icluding the goal setting which is an everbody knows about dopamine so what are the drugs gonna do...wake up ignorant idiots.

we should be directing the rage at the ones teaching mainstream people about psychiatry that they ned to wake up to facts about the poisons they charade as medicine...frustrating that people believe it but there is nothing that we can do...everyday people believe the "experts" who teach the same #######4 about pharma..like my parents that only listen to the professionals if I say anything they just say they don't know and expect me to be ok with that when they would believe the professionals word over my good word...I am the one experienceing it, you'de think the quacks would know that I have greater insight into what is going on, especially with rage about the quacks to their face that I need to control to manipulate the situation with cunning somehow and ask more questions see if they can answer, no they expect that we already know most of the callenging questions....ask a quack a question expecting a genuine answer but you get nothing, maybe becous #######4 would agitate me.....they should know but they make out this kind of thing to be sympotms of schizophrenia, any patient with their own understadning of what they are practivcing and questioning their validity will be seen as suffereing an illness to ignore the content that they just disagree with and label them as symptoms...the horrible truth

sorry I said so much when I was really not saying much that isn't already obvious.

I told someone today to ask for a chemical imbalance test and they thanked me for the advice.

People are so clueless to this scam.

Oh, the dopamine/serotonine myth usually comes together with the silly insulin-diabetes metaphor and goes like this:

"You need the medicine to correct a chemical imbalance in your brain which is caused by too much or not enough dopamine/serotonine/whatever neurotransmitter, just as a diabetic person needs their insulin."

If it's not presented to you with the metaphor and the chemically-imbalanced-brain-thing, you can help them elaborate their point and then you go on and debunk it as follows:

1. Not all diabetics need insulin (diabetes type II), and sometimes diabetes is manageable without it by adjusting your life to these needs. Same goes for many psychiatric conditions.

2. In depressive patients, both high and low levels of dopamine etc. have been found so it's not that simple.

3. Psychopharmaka are NOT like insulin, they don't give you the particular neurotransmitter which you need. Instead they give you a chemical without knowing exactly what it all does and has lots of side effects; it does not cure the cause but masks the symptoms so it's more comparable to say, prescribing opium for migraine for lack of better medicine. And it's an individual decision if you had migraine and only hat this medicine whether you take it or not and how often and long as you have to balance out advantages and risks/side effects. (Other example: the diabetic patient injects too much insulin, but instead of eating some glucose to get his sugar levels back on track, he takes a sedating pill to help against his tremblings as glucose has not been discovered yet.) Indeed, as the brain is very complex, psychiatry is still in its beginnings so the medicine is a bit whacko.

4. If it were a chemical imbalance that gets repaired by the medicine, it would not cause the typical side effects which occur when the chemical gets out of control instead of being balanced out, like e. g. neurological disorders, metabolic disorders etc., but would rather prevent you from getting them or cure them as well. This is because neurotransmitters don't only go into the brain but also elsewhere. The diabetes guy, in contrast, gets the insulin he needs and this helps against his symptoms without getting twice as many new negative symptoms.

This line of argumentation does not even contain the questionnable long-term effects etc., but I think it helps a lot.

Haha! Welcome to the anti-psych forum MilliPete! You'll fit right in!