What doctors don't know about the drugs they prescribe

So much for peer reviewed journals as being a good source of information...It's things like this that make me just want to hide under a rock and say, "screw the medical world altogether."
http://www.ted.com/talks/ben_goldacre_w ... cribe.html

Cheze2 wrote:So much for peer reviewed journals as being a good source of information...It's things like this that make me just want to hide under a rock and say, "screw the medical world altogether."
http://www.ted.com/talks/ben_goldacre_what_doctors_don_t_know_about_the_drugs_they_prescribe.html

First thought is this, PLOS Medicine: The Latest Mania: Selling Bipolar Disorder
http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0030185

Where the author did a study on the studies ect.

Also Its so bad how in the docs office is all the free pens, clocks, clip boards ect with drug names on them all over them to push the stuff.

Cheze2 wrote:So much for peer reviewed journals as being a good source of information...It's things like this that make me just want to hide under a rock and say, "screw the medical world altogether."
http://www.ted.com/talks/ben_goldacre_w ... cribe.html

Since that talk, there's been some good news on this story:

"Pharmaceutical giant GlaxoSmithKline has announced its support for the AllTrials campaign, which means that the company is committed to publishing all of its clinical trials."

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/201 ... -alltrials

More information on the campaign at: http://www.alltrials.net

Cheze2 wrote:So much for peer reviewed journals as being a good source of information...It's things like this that make me just want to hide under a rock and say, "screw the medical world altogether."
http://www.ted.com/talks/ben_goldacre_w ... cribe.html

What we see in this video highlights not just the problems with the drugs, but the problems with how we view sickness as well. Especially the mental illnesses. Good video!

doctors only know what the drug companies have them know, pretty bad situation.... they even have the reality of mental illness distorted once you become known as a label and not the individual with unique concerns.

What doctors don't know about the psychiatric drugs they prescribe is what they feel like to be on and that's really kind of important I would think. Only by taking the stuff could anyone possibly understand.

they believe their education about negative symptoms and myth of post psychotic depression and avoid thinking of in terms of the effects of the drugs....perhaps some people are more sensitive to the antipsychotcic blocking all pleasure and reward systems, passions feelings, cognitive problems only someone on the drug knows yet can't even spit it out on how its affecting the mind its too difficult to express on the drugs, plus psychiatrists aren't an easy bunch to talk to they just see it as thought disorder, they aren't rece[ptive and the patients probably are effected by the brick wall.

from within the effe3cts of the drugs only complacency and passivity is the response to how its even making you feel, plus some will believe the psychiatrist explanation yet they would see improvement in these deficits if the drug was discontinued.

It's only really a doctors opinion whether someone has a "mental illness" or not. There is nothing to prove one has an illness apart from a doctor interpreting their behaviour and finding an disorder that best suits it. The drugs they prescribe have nasty effects and there's no real proof that they are necessary at all. The doc will analyse all your behaviour in terms of the medication for example they may say "your improving because of the medication" or "without the medication you would relapse". They can never be sure of this at all they just say every aspect of their behaviour is because of the drugs which is idiotic but docs will use it to backup the fact that someone needs their meds or that the medication is reducing the symptoms. They seem to all work in kinda similar ways.

My rule of thumb is never use anything that doesn't have at least 10 years of usage statistics to look at. So many new drugs hit the market then 1 or 2 years later have class action side-effects suits against them it's just not worth it. All drugs have side effects, but knowing what they are up front can help make a better informed decision.

this may sound ridiculous, i have been taking a minimal dosis of quietapine, before zeroquel....i mean half 25mg, every night. after a year. we spoke a couple of time with my psych about stopping, but the stress the last months was too much...all of a sudden i get this massive muscle contraction, it was a nightmare, then a week allergies...well my psych said, maybe it was distonie....a secondary effect of the medicine. after a month and a half i can not sit, or stand for more than 20 minutes. i can walk.
it seems that it irritated some nerves in my spine. and had a sort of chain reaction to other organs. So i am barely functioning.

reading over the secondary effects of quietapine, there is this gigantic list, so i came, to the ten people in the ten duizend.....and it said something about an irritated throat with blisters......and i thought, Oh my God, this has been going on for a while. Then it also spoke about some pain in the higher part of the body...i do not know how to describe it and iy seems that there can be problems to the heart, and know after a year i am realizing, that it was not a virus, or the stress, but maybe the medicine itself!? i started with melatonina yesterday....and i will see how it goes....but i realize that angst and I walk side by side and it has always been this way.....so we are still far far away from a solution.