What doctors don't know about the drugs they prescribe

Copy_Cat wrote:The mechanism of action of aspirin involves inhibition of the enzyme cyclooxygenase, therefore suppressing the production of prostaglandins and thromboxanes, thereby reducing pain and inflammation.

But try this, search the name of any psychiatric drug + "mechanism of action unknown" and watch what comes up.

http://www.google.com

This I learned from this video http://youtu.be/KIjOZq_AUeE?t=12s

hi Copy_cat, remember that aspirine also makes blood more liquid, so if there is chance of an hemorrage, is not a good idea, but thanks for the idea.

hi! "P0ci"

Yes that is understandable, underage of 18 shouldn't smoke cannabis due to frontal lobes of brain now being developed yet.

In any case if you are in Europe you might have medical cannabis available. I know in certain autonomous regions of Spain they do and in Germany[/quote]

believe me, where I live I would have absolutely no problem getting it, but like I say,
while I have teeners at home, it is out of the question, anyway, thanks a lot!

loise wrote:hi! "P0ci"

Yes that is understandable, underage of 18 shouldn't smoke cannabis due to frontal lobes of brain now being developed yet.

In any case if you are in Europe you might have medical cannabis available. I know in certain autonomous regions of Spain they do and in Germany

believe me, where I live I would have absolutely no problem getting it, but like I say,
while I have teeners at home, it is out of the question, anyway, thanks a lot![/quote]

Im going to assume your in the Netherlands where studies have shown that less percentage of youth smoke it due to it being legal and not being a cultural taboo.

In any case, they don't need their father to turn them into potheads, they have their peers at school for that.

hi! "P0ci"
Im going to assume your in the Netherlands where studies have shown that less percentage of youth smoke it due to it being legal and not being a cultural taboo.

In any case, they don't need their father to turn them into potheads, they have their peers at school for that.[/quote]

Hi POci,
you made me laugh!! it is a good remark, and yes I do live in the Netherlands....maybe kids do not smoke pot too much, but believe me all kinds of drugs are available to them and they do use them.

loise wrote:hi! "P0ci"
Im going to assume your in the Netherlands where studies have shown that less percentage of youth smoke it due to it being legal and not being a cultural taboo.

In any case, they don't need their father to turn them into potheads, they have their peers at school for that.

Hi POci,
you made me laugh!! it is a good remark, and yes I do live in the Netherlands....maybe kids do not smoke pot too much, but believe me all kinds of drugs are available to them and they do use them.[/quote]

Yes I know, but my point is that you really shouldn't worry about them smoking if you use for medicinal reasons, like I said they can learn that on the streets. But hey I do understand why you don't want to do it. But if your spasms are bad the cannabis would be a lot better then any chemical you can take for them. Its like if you are given an opiate for intense pain, I don't think that will necesarilly turn your kids into heroin addicts.

hi "P0ci,
good point, thanks!!

hi guys,
In a program on tv last night, where they research the reasons behind the death of a celebrity, I learned something new.
when you get the wrong dosis, the effects can be exactly contrary to what is wanted.
they spoke about oxazepam, and it seems that a reaction can be or aggressive behaviour, or unusual, and instead of calming anxiety, triggering other things.
this happened to me after taking oxazepam 4 months, and with my psych....I thought I was having a psychotic episode, and that is why I started again zeroquel!!

I should know better, but I wonder if my psych does not know better. he is honest accepting that we are just "extinguishing fires" because we have not been able to come close to the real problem,
things of my childhood....but to get a strong medicine for the secondary effects of the first one,
that troubles me!!.

my body reacts so badly, and because of sugar and weight gain, he has avoided other medicines,
but know is clear that zeroquel is not for me.
I have been a couple of weeks without taking anything. I get my rush moments and need to learn to keep a slow rhythm. yesterday I went to bed, and I had not control over my thoughts, it was like a four of july, chaotic...and I was trembling inside...I took a magnesium pill and melatonina and went to bed...I sleep ok, but not enough..i am pretty tired today...

anyway, a new day, another day! have a good one!

loise wrote:when you get the wrong dosis, the effects can be exactly contrary to what is wanted.
they spoke about oxazepam, and it seems that a reaction can be or aggressive behaviour, or unusual, and instead of calming anxiety, triggering other things.

I think you mean diagnosis here instead of "dosis"? If that is the case, then yes I agree that taking the wrong medication can have an unwanted effect. This is why obtaining a correct diagnosis is so important. For a diagnosis of bipolar disorder for example, some people can become very manic if prescribed an anti-depressant alone but often times this will happen as many people's first beginnings with bipolar which cause them to seek help is extreme depression.

[quote="Cheze2"][quote="loise"]when you get the wrong dosis, the effects can be exactly contrary to what is wanted.

hi Cheze2,
I did meant dosis. In this program about autopsies of celebrities, they study what happened days before they died, so they were talking about a young woman, Nicole something...anyway they spoke about oxazepam and the wrong reaction due to the wrong dosis...

anyway I totally agree with you, right diagnosis is important. I do know that he gave me the oxazepam because I was having not only lots of spasm, but also a couple of anxiety attacks (you know shaking from head to feet) it did help, but not to the long run.

I had yesterday a very good meeting with him.
he said, I know you are in a hurry for a diagnosis, but I am not...meaning, that the trayect can be as important or even more than the diagnosis. And also that sometimes we are not ready to hear what we have, so it is better to discover it within a process...that I consider myself and give myself much more time than a year ago!! he also explained that we have been in a containment therapy all these years because of very high stress factors (3 teeners ) foreign country, difficult status,etc.
but since my third and last just passed her last year of high school, he agreed to start doing
some exams...anyway he asked what things bother you the most, I have kept a journal, and before I went I underlined the key issues that bother me. At the end, he said that all of them were
executive functions, so he said that they belong most of them to the ADHD without hyperactivity and/or ? Asperger...something like that...
we agree with possible DDNOS and some DID but know we are moving to this third...I am happy,
I want to know, for myself and for my children...and the most important thing is that I thought I was at the beginning of dementia. my mom and grandma have/had vascular dementia.

I did told him last time about what you told me, that it reminded you or your mania moments...
I have not discarded this possibility, because anti depressants are a ramp with me , I do become aggressive. thanks a lot!!

loise wrote:

Cheze2 wrote:

loise wrote:when you get the wrong dosis, the effects can be exactly contrary to what is wanted.

hi Cheze2,
I did meant dosis. In this program about autopsies of celebrities, they study what happened days before they died, so they were talking about a young woman, Nicole something...anyway they spoke about oxazepam and the wrong reaction due to the wrong dosis...

anyway I totally agree with you, right diagnosis is important. I do know that he gave me the oxazepam because I was having not only lots of spasm, but also a couple of anxiety attacks (you know shaking from head to feet) it did help, but not to the long run.

I had yesterday a very good meeting with him.
he said, I know you are in a hurry for a diagnosis, but I am not...meaning, that the trayect can be as important or even more than the diagnosis. And also that sometimes we are not ready to hear what we have, so it is better to discover it within a process...that I consider myself and give myself much more time than a year ago!! he also explained that we have been in a containment therapy all these years because of very high stress factors (3 teeners ) foreign country, difficult status,etc.
but since my third and last just passed her last year of high school, he agreed to start doing
some exams...anyway he asked what things bother you the most, I have kept a journal, and before I went I underlined the key issues that bother me. At the end, he said that all of them were
executive functions, so he said that they belong most of them to the ADHD without hyperactivity and/or ? Asperger...something like that...
we agree with possible DDNOS and some DID but know we are moving to this third...I am happy,
I want to know, for myself and for my children...and the most important thing is that I thought I was at the beginning of dementia. my mom and grandma have/had vascular dementia.

I did told him last time about what you told me, that it reminded you or your mania moments...
I have not discarded this possibility, because anti depressants are a ramp with me , I do become aggressive. thanks a lot!!

You are probably talking about Anna Nicole Smith, another Marylyn Monroe type death. Dont beleive what the media tells you. They were all victims... Just like Micheal Jackson and Kurt Kobain to name a few.