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Re: Psychiatry and Religious/Spiritual/Philisophical involve

Postby Copy_Cat » Sat May 04, 2013 7:39 pm

HesDeltanCaptain wrote:The book he references isn't diagnosing Jesus.


Ya it is,

" Abstract

The authors have analyzed the religious figures Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and St. Paul from a behavioral, neurologic, and neuropsychiatric perspective to determine whether new insights can be achieved about the nature of their revelations. Analysis reveals that these individuals had experiences that resemble those now defined as psychotic symptoms, suggesting that their experiences may have been manifestations of primary or mood disorder-associated psychotic disorders. The rationale for this proposal is discussed in each case with a differential diagnosis. Limitations inherent to a retrospective diagnostic examination are assessed. Social models of psychopathology and group dynamics are proposed as explanations for how followers were attracted and new belief systems emerged and were perpetuated. "

Source: http://neuro.psychiatryonline.org/article.aspx?articleID=1476850

Psychiatry says religion including Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and St. Paul is fraud that is "perpetuated", read it for yourself.

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HesDeltanCaptain wrote:if anyone's a paranoid schitophrenic it's the guy who put that site up.


Diagnose to discredit a critic , typical shrink behavior.
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Re: I'm still a free man-Razael's Thread

Postby Razael » Sun May 05, 2013 8:43 am

sux....can't put up fresh topic if its got anything to do with spiritual problems which is a neglected problem with psychiatry...it needs to get out there :(

-- Sun May 05, 2013 6:48 pm --

think I blew it by writing another PS to the government departments that I feared for my health and safety since the lowest dose of seraquil had such a bad reaction...plus letting them know the service is delaying getting a summary and referral to a therapist.

hope they read the original that is an extention of what I wrote in seperate thread that is now in this one
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Re: I'm still a free man-Razael's Thread

Postby Razael » Mon May 06, 2013 3:18 am

They came around to my house, but I didn;t answer not answering any calls, its making me feel sick, goes in waves but I fighting it...psychosis is an invention, it exists in the minds and projections of others like the mental health workers...I detect it pretty clear, I'll be ok but they make me sick.

contacted an anti-corruption agency that had jurastriction over the oporations of the police force in victoria...I guess like letting them know about anti-psychiatry and the truth about the corrupt mental heaalth laws etc and the potential corruption of the law enforcement officers by taking orders from psychiatry lol

anyway, a bit on edge I guess from the visit..no way was I dealing with them

she said "thank guys" at one point like she had some coppa's there...not sure but who would she be thanking for trying to help with their pittyfull actions and itent to get me dragged to hospital I guess.
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Re: I'm still a free man-Razael's Thread

Postby Cheze2 » Mon May 06, 2013 11:44 pm

Razael, I am concerned about you. It seems that these letters and calls to government agencies are becoming more frequent. From an outsider's perspective, these types of things could make one believe that you are delusional or paranoid and thus give them good reason to revoke your CTO and have you placed back into the hospital. I am assuming that you are somewhat aware of this as you are posting it here, and then saying that you probably shouldn't have done that. So why are you?
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Re: I'm still a free man-Razael's Thread

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue May 07, 2013 5:43 am

Cheze2 wrote:Razael, I am concerned about you. It seems that these letters and calls to government agencies are becoming more frequent. From an outsider's perspective, these types of things could make one believe that you are delusional or paranoid and thus give them good reason to revoke your CTO and have you placed back into the hospital. I am assuming that you are somewhat aware of this as you are posting it here, and then saying that you probably shouldn't have done that. So why are you?


He should be O.K , there are all kinds of activists and causes out there and these agencies must be somewhat used to getting these kind of e-mails on everything from animal rights groups to people who want to save rain forests and ozone layer. I don't know anything about politics in Australia but here in USA there is all kinds of stuff going on.

I don't suggest he keeps doing it but he is going to do what he wants to do.

I signed up for the MindFreedom Shield . Just in case I ever have an emotional crisis and drink myself sick and need some medical help to get back on my feet and then run into coercive psychiatry at the hospital.

Members of MindFreedom International use mutual support to protect one another from unwanted coerced psychiatric procedures. Current MindFreedom members may register for the MindFreedom Shield for free. Then if a member with a Shield is threatened with coerced psychiatry, that member can instantly activate a public alert system.

http://www.mindfreedom.org/campaign/shield/mindfreedom-shield-program-overview
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Re: I'm still a free man-Razael's Thread

Postby Devilock » Fri May 10, 2013 6:43 am

Razael,
Im sorry to hear you having all these problems with the psychiatrists etc. Im in Australia too, NSW. I know there are absolutely no anti psych services like mindfreedom or anything here that I know of. Have u heard of any? Are you able to move to another place so they can stop hassling you in your own home? Or can you stay at a friends house for a while until they leave u alone.
Im sorry you had your cto renewed for a year. I nearly had that happen to me here too, but I "played the game" and after 9 months got off of it. I've just been "discharged" from the Mental health service here too, after a year and 4 months, they think im taking oral meds, im not.
I hope it works out for you, if you find any good 'anti psych' organisations or anything in Australia, please let me know.
I remember when I was on my cto and I thought they were going to renew it all I could think was I cannot put up with this damage to my body any longer (in the end it was too late after 6 months anyway, my body was already badly damaged possibly permanently), I had plans to get a train to another state or into the country and stay at a cheap pub somewhere for a few months until the mental health service forgot about me. I didn't know what to do cause I had my child living (with her grandparents) 5 minutes away and didn't want to leave her, if it wernt for that I would not have stayed here at all, I would have not had any injections.
I hope it works out for you, the herbs u are taking sound really good and positive.
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Re: I'm still a free man-Razael's Thread

Postby Copy_Cat » Fri May 10, 2013 2:22 pm

Devilock wrote:Im in Australia too, NSW. I know there are absolutely no anti psych services like mindfreedom or anything here that I know of. Have u heard of any?


Something I found online, I don't know if they are active.

"AMHHRLRC promotes, protects, respects, fulfills and enhances the Human Rights of people experiencing issues related to Emotional and Spiritual Well being and given Psychiatric Labels using both Public, Community and Private Mental Health Facilities"

http://australianmentalhealthhumanrightsandlawreformcoalition.com/site/index.php/about-us-amhhrlrc

Given the fact that there are virtually no human or civil rights granted to those psychiatry deems mentally ill, that there are no medical or scientific tests to conclusively prove anyone is mentally ill, and that no guidelines exist to protect citizens from abuses being committed under the guise of mental health, I think educating families is very important. They fall for the lies of biological psychiatry after receiving biased psycho-education often by pharma front groups like NAMI: National Alliance on Mental Illness and then don't defend there loved ones from psychiatric abuses.

When a doctor tells a family there loved one is sick and needs medicine they don't want, they don't know the truth about psychiatry and they think its medical care. Never has there been any evidence of a chemical imbalance in the brains of those labeled with mental disorders. There is no valid test available to determine if a chemical imbalance even exists. Yet a multi-billion dollar business exists from the pens of psychiatrists writing prescriptions for these mind numbing and personality robbing drugs to correct this nonexistent imbalance.
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Re: I'm still a free man-Razael's Thread

Postby Razael » Sat May 11, 2013 12:47 am

I'm not free anymore, although I still guess I am feeling better then I was about everything.

police tried to break into my house and failed then they came with a key to open the door....but I was in good spirits and showed them I was sane, not that it would make a difference to most clinicians.

spent 3-4days in hospital trying to communicate reality as best o=I could, met consumer and carer consultants who advocated for me about the post traumatic stress thats left off my file.

hope the quack thinks about it, and realises she just stubborn and not want to change the diagnosis, she said lets not talk about diagnosis, but it makes no difference

I spewed really bad the worst spew I have ever had in my life tasted disgustige, felt likie all the pills and benzos they give you there, or something in the food,,it almost desreves a fressh topic about spewing after a few day in lock up..disgusting but it means a lot

-- Sat May 11, 2013 10:52 am --

a medical student was blown away by me and ev en wanted to do his project about me...we had a meeting with him and his friend and talked about what he wanted to talk about which was interesting, will get an email of it so maybe I can share it, might be a bit more antipsychiatry...thats a good thing, he said to me it might turn some heads and I liked the idea

-- Sat May 11, 2013 10:56 am --

and got them to write the reference to my second opinion therapist hoping it all goes well, they have better objectivity then been waiting for over a month for the community treatment clinic to do the same plus the consumer consutlant knows the therapist I am going to see and he's open to getting people off the drugs! fingers crossed

so this hospital admission was actually pretty good for my cas I think, I was on best behaviour and presnted free of mental illness, not that they really notice that kind of thing anyway, it should be noted somewhere
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Re: I'm still a free man-Razael's Thread

Postby Razael » Sat May 11, 2013 1:06 am

copy cat I found AMHHRLRC but they even deleted a message I sent on their wall...they do have a good facebook page but he spends more time on that the actually doing anything :/
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Re: I'm still a free man-Razael's Thread

Postby Cheze2 » Sat May 11, 2013 1:25 am

Razael, I'm really glad that you're okay. It does seem like, while it may not have been wanted, it was a somewhat positive experience being in the hospital. Hopefully things come out of it to help you get where you want to be in life. I hope all is well!
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