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Re: Psychiatry and Religious/Spiritual/Philisophical involve

Postby Razael » Sat May 04, 2013 1:58 pm

seraquil I just had made me try to vomit really violently, but couldn;t get anything up it wass really hard for vomit reflex or something...had it on empty stomach....tastes sweet, kinda nice.....

bad dizzy

holy ###$ it was just the 50mg!
glad I didn;t have anymore

what should I do!!!
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Re: Psychiatry and Religious/Spiritual/Philisophical involve

Postby Razael » Sat May 04, 2013 2:13 pm

sorry to mention but I had some rhodiola coz I know it induces vomiting...interesting I managed to be able to vomit when it started just coughing instead of vomit reflex...spewed a little bit of this black film that I thought might have been how the seraquil rected in my gut, either that or the cola-drinks I am still addicted to...not sure...interesting spew lol interesting that rhodiola settled in my gut and none of the rohdiola came up just the black film and fluids!!

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Re: Psychiatry and Religious/Spiritual/Philisophical involve

Postby Copy_Cat » Sat May 04, 2013 5:22 pm

fiftysix wrote:I had a quick look at the link. I think the topic does not bear discussing. Its just ridiculous and i'm not even a christian.


I just think its important for people to know about psychiatry and atheism. Also that page has lots of good references. I was not even looking up psychiatry and atheism when I found it, I fact i forget what I was doing when that page popped up.

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Re: Psychiatry and Religious/Spiritual/Philisophical involve

Postby Copy_Cat » Sat May 04, 2013 5:41 pm

Razael wrote:dunno if it was such a good idea to forward this to all the government departments and hospital consumer relations departments I could and request for it to be given to the chief psychiatrist in victoria australia.....



If I was your therapist I would have you write 2000 times "Its impossible to convince a pig headed psychiatrist of anything" or something like that.

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Instead be like your right Dr. No-Soul , there is no God,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and be done with it.

Mabey forwarding it to churches and stuff might not be a bad Idea so they can warn there congregation ???

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Re: Psychiatry and Religious/Spiritual/Philisophical involve

Postby HesDeltanCaptain » Sat May 04, 2013 5:52 pm

I think in most cases of distant religious icons there's two seperate issues: what they actually wrote or taught, and what was later attributed to them. In Jesus' case, as a Jew, everything he taught was Judaism. Christianity wouldn't exist until the NT Gospels got written decades and centuries after Jesus...Did whatever you prefer to believe. ;) So when trying to diagnose Jesus it's important to remember that the general public doesn't have anything he's credited with having written, though as a Jew would went to yeshiva growing up (as mentioned in the Infancy Gospels et al.) he woulda likely written rather a lot. And since even then he was regarded as divine or the Messiah I'd think every letter he wrote would been saved.

As to what he may have been mental illness-wise, I don't see any indication what he personally taught or believed was pathological. Once you're attributed miraculous 'superpowers' to someone, worrying about whether he was mentally ill or not seems sort of silly, when it's the observers and later followers who're more worthy of such investigation.

Only 'illness' I could see being laid at his feet would be some kind of martyr-complex sorta thing since he allowed himself to be executed. Zealotry and martyrdom doesn't take being mentally ill unless everyone who's done it is going to get such a label. I think though that how the execution is written of, and how it actually happened are considerably different. Wouldn't look very good or divine afterall if he went kicking and screaming and trying to run away. No, better to say he took it like a man and whatnot. :)
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Re: Psychiatry and Religious/Spiritual/Philisophical involve

Postby Copy_Cat » Sat May 04, 2013 5:53 pm

Why does psychiatry mock, and ridicule the faithful?

Most obvious reason is they have no moral compass so they can behave however they want without being judged but also, the trolling, mocking, and ridicule are an effort to make themselves appear bigger by making others appear smaller (elementary school bully behavior).

Within the heart of every man that ever walked the Earth there is a God shaped vacuum that cannot be filled with anything but God. psychiatrists however, try to fill the void with empty and meaningless dogma they know in their hearts is a lie.

Psychiatrists are not simply non-believers, they are members of almost a cult (the APA) of motivated, unapologetic, and loyal deniers of universal truth.
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Re: I'm still a free man-Razael's Thread

Postby Razael » Sat May 04, 2013 5:58 pm

for anyone who likes hip hop and cypress hill talking about having "illusions ######6 me up in my mind" lol good song

\"they all ###$ up nowcoz they let a #######3 back on the street somehow" lol
:"some people tell me that I need help, some people can ###$ off and go to hell"
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Re: Psychiatry and Religious/Spiritual/Philisophical involve

Postby HesDeltanCaptain » Sat May 04, 2013 6:04 pm

That bible.ca link looks like some junior highschool kids' website. Doesn't exactly exude scientific or even theological credibility. It's probably some diagnosed person's site railing against what he feels are forces aligning against him, in other words, if anyone's a paranoid schitophrenic it's the guy who put that site up.

The book he references isn't diagnosing Jesus. It's dealing with contemporary people and how a lot of the time schitzoprheniacs have religious experiences. The transference onto Jesus is therefore an obvious persecution-complex where to deflect just criticizm, he moves the diagnoses from himself to Jesus. So placed, similar-minded folk will leap to Jesus' defense, and as is often the case with ignorant religious people who can't read advanced texts well-enough to actually understand, they miss the point completely thinking their faith is what's being attacked or discussed.
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Re: I'm still a free man-Razael's Thread

Postby Copy_Cat » Sat May 04, 2013 6:09 pm

Razael wrote:"some people tell me that I need help, some people can ###$ off and go to hell"


Uploaded on Dec 14, 2011Millions of kids and adults are told they're mentally ill and that mental disorders like ADHD or Bi-polar are the same thing as having a medical condition like diabetes or cancer. I've got one thing to say to those pushing this pharmaceutical agenda: Prove it!


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Re: I'm still a free man-Razael's Thread

Postby HesDeltanCaptain » Sat May 04, 2013 6:25 pm

Couple favorites quotes:

"Disease is the biggest money maker in our economy." John H. Tobe

"A patient cured, is a customer lost." dunno who that's from
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