I'm still a free man-Razael's Thread

yeah cheze i not sure where the hearing is at, I asked for it to be adjourned and they said they were going to strike out my appeal to reapply at later date once I got a second opinion.

Opted out of having my CTO revoked with last minute injection at my house..might stretch it out again...the quacks aren't compromising but wondered if I went to hospital whether I could get tapered off..they all stick together so I don't know

still fighting putting complaints in everywhere I can, hope something happens real soon.was feeling optamistiic that we going to win this..maybe it starts with me getting of CTO for human rights abuses's

THe best thing to do would yes get off the CTO (community torture order) (just thought of that one!). WHat ways can u get off it? 1/ hide from the fascists until they forget about u 2/play there game and get off at the end of your cto, if they try to put another one on you, fight it with a good/reasonable psychiatrist with a good intentions and morally think what theyre doint to u is wrong. ie, get your own psychiatrist to submit a second opinion ( you would have to find some kind of psych who is empathetic to overuse of psychotropic medications and who would state that the meds are detrimental for you and have been used for too long on you and its making u worse. present eveidence that long term neuroleptic drugs have shown bad outcomes and ud like to be tapered off. I know its hard, but if u have the time and the resources u may find a lawyer (I wouludnt suggest the CCHR) that would help u. (print out the mindreedom defence package to be submitted to your court case. These are some options. U can either fight them, get away from them or keep being treated like a sub human until they *finally* say u don't have to be on a cto anymore, but from what you've written, it seems like they've really got it into you that they want to u to be on this cto and renew it allot, because they see u as a 'troublemaker'...I don't know what advice to give u, I think u should find a *good* psychiatrist with integrity that would taper you off the meds and then leave u be . From your writing here, it is clear that you are not *psychotic" atm, whether u ever were is irrelevant. There are psychs out there that want to help with the human rights and civil liberties of ppl stuck in the mh system, if you could find one, that could be a viable option. Hope it works out for u razael, I really do, your posts make me really feel helpless, I wish this was a free country and more ppl could help u. Pls try and get into contact with mindfreedom Melbourne, its on the mindreedom Australia website that was put up here on the forum. Don't get angry at them, just inch youself away from them bit by bit, but please don't give them reason to renew another cto, when willthat ever end? GOOD LUCK mate. x

-- Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:10 pm --

I would suggest looking into a private psychiatrist for a second opinion, in my area there are private psych's that bulk bill and are quite different in their thinking towards the medical model, they get to be becase theyre private. SO look for a private psych in your area who bulk bills and explain the long term affects are making u worse and u want to be tapered off. Once u are in meetings with a private psych, the local community mH team cant really touch u, as u are going private and that's your choice, u realize u have the choice to what psych that u want to see, they cant just say u have to see one of their public ones which fullow the rules of the mh arena that they work for, I think youll find a private psych, with a reputation for bulk billing and some free thoughts on mental health issues could be the way to go. Hope this helps.

-Razael- etc. as I have said numerous times, I am not a professional and or a human being with mental illness. This is important because I have not experienced mental illness and the horrors of what -YOU- have to deal with on a daily bases. I have always had empathy for -YOU- because the limited amount time I have seen and heard -YOU- etc., my heart and soul cry for -YOU- and what you go through...

Please answer one question that I have concerning the above thread, are you and have you ever been violent towards people and if not then why don't they leave -YOU- alone?

KINDNESSTHERAPY wrote:-Razael- etc. as I have said numerous times, I am not a professional and or a human being with mental illness. This is important because I have not experienced mental illness and the horrors of what -YOU- have to deal with on a daily bases. I have always had empathy for -YOU- because the limited amount time I have seen and heard -YOU- etc., my heart and soul cry for -YOU- and what you go through...

Please answer one question that I have concerning the above thread, are you and have you ever been violent towards people and if not then why don't they leave -YOU- alone?

He says in a earlier thread that he got into a fight with one of his co-workers and so on. Some of his behavior needs to change. I don't believe that behavior which you can change should qualify as a mental illness. I also don't believe that someone who has never committed a act that proves he is a threat to himself or others as a result of a so-called mental illness should be listed as someone who has been committed just like he has. Once again, some of his behavior simply needs to change. He does not have a mental illness

-- Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:09 pm --

KINDNESSTHERAPY wrote:-Razael- etc. as I have said numerous times, I am not a professional and or a human being with mental illness. This is important because I have not experienced mental illness and the horrors of what -YOU- have to deal with on a daily bases. I have always had empathy for -YOU- because the limited amount time I have seen and heard -YOU- etc., my heart and soul cry for -YOU- and what you go through...

Please answer one question that I have concerning the above thread, are you and have you ever been violent towards people and if not then why don't they leave -YOU- alone?

He says in a earlier thread that he got into a fight with one of his co-workers and so on. Some of his behavior needs to change. I don't believe that behavior which you can change should qualify as a mental illness. I also don't believe that someone who has never committed a act that proves he is a threat to himself or others as a result of a so-called mental illness should be listed as someone who has been committed just like he has. Once again, some of his behavior simply needs to change. He does not have a mental illness

1013victim, please remember that no one here is in a position to diagnose. That includes determining whether or not someone has a psychiatric diagnosis.

what behaviour needs to change 1013? lol, maybe get off my CTO and quit with psychiatry forum rants maybe.

yeah they use this time parents were smothering me and pushing their psychiatry opiate onto me,, I was sensitive to it and threatened them but thats about it. it was normal and not result of MI like the clinic claims

psychiatry opiate? dosnt feel much like an opiate to me. prob does to carers etc. that want to block out the truth.

So whats happening? Are u still getting injections or what?

yeah I mean its an opiate for family etc..

got my injection and am sleeping all the time again, might stretch out the next on but my advocate is suggesting I not worry anybody with force hospitalisations if I am non compliant.

nothing happening like usual....

It would seem to me that if you desire to get off of your CTO, giving them a reason to hospitalize you due to being "non compliant" would just make things more difficult for you in the long run.

this time I managed to get a complaint to the ombudsman and Australian Health Practitioners Regulatory Agency...so benefit if those get heared even though they were long...want an appology and disciplinary action for registrar that made my philosophy of medicine and suffering out to be a delusion, but forgot that they aren't delusion for prognosis once diagnosed psychotic, since John weir Perry shares this philosophy that it is polishing of integrity.