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Conspiracy?

Postby Ian Reynir » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:57 pm

Please let me know if you think that "psychiatry" is a conspiracy. Many of us, and some highly intelligent psychiatrists, would consider this mass drugging phenomena to be a terrible conspiracy that is propagated by social, political, and especially industry (economic) organizations. In the case of psychiatry, the conspiracy "event" occurs each time a patient is told that they require medication for life or coerced into believing such things... Other "events" may include any legal or policy fights that the drug companies win to keep their tyrany running.

Note: A conspiracy theory purports to explain a social, political, or economic event as being caused or covered up by a covert group or organization. (Wikipedia - the source of all knowledge)
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Re: Conspiracy?

Postby Copy_Cat » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:15 am

Ian Reynir wrote:Please let me know if you think that "psychiatry" is a conspiracy.


Im doing some research, lets see:

conspiracy
1. An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.
2. A group of conspirators.
3. Law- An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.

"This was revealed in a series of New York Times articles late December 2006. New York Times referred to internal memos and documents who clearly show that Eli Lilly and Company knew about the extreme dangers of their product Zyprexa, and intentionally lied to health personel and the public in order to profit from their customers death and suffering." http://zyprexakills.ath.cx/

Three Biggest Pharmaceutical Lawsuits of 2012: Psychiatric Drugs Focus of All Three http://candidaabrahamson.wordpress.com/ ... all-three/

Paxil Withdrawal Symptoms,,GlaxoSmithKline faces thousands of lawsuits based on severe Paxil withdrawal symptoms. http://www.anapolschwartz.com/practices ... drawal.asp

Let me make sure I defined conspiracy correctly

Noun
1.A plan by two or more people to do something unlawful or harmful.
2.The action of plotting or conspiring.

Seems like a conspiracy to me, but what do I know ?
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Re: Conspiracy?

Postby Cheze2 » Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:33 am

So Copy_Cat, are you saying that it is more the pharmaceutical industry that is the conspiracy vs psychiatry?

I would tend to lean this way myself. Where the pharmaceutical industry is driving the "conspiracy" and the psychiatrists are just their little minions.
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Re: Conspiracy?

Postby Copy_Cat » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:16 pm

Cheze2 wrote:So Copy_Cat, are you saying that it is more the pharmaceutical industry that is the conspiracy vs psychiatry?

I would tend to lean this way myself. Where the pharmaceutical industry is driving the "conspiracy" and the psychiatrists are just their little minions.


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Re: Conspiracy?

Postby Ian Reynir » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:51 pm

I honestly wish that the puppeteers were the Drug companies, but the "Chief" puppet master is actually quite a bit further up the food chain. It's a LOT easier to see what I mean when the dream wears off. That's a whole other ball of wax though...
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Re: Conspiracy?

Postby Copy_Cat » Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:37 pm

Ian Reynir wrote:I honestly wish that the puppeteers were the Drug companies, but the "Chief" puppet master is actually quite a bit further up the food chain. It's a LOT easier to see what I mean when the dream wears off. That's a whole other ball of wax though...


This is the very first thing I thought of,

"The medical model of psychiatry serves as an ideology which camouflages this covert form of social control as medical treatment."

Read it here, http://www.szasz.com/leifercritic.pdf

Is that what you mean, psychiatry is part of social engineering ? Hell ya it is, "they" self appointed themselves as judge of whats normal and whats not in society.
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Re: Conspiracy?

Postby charter » Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:20 pm

Ian Reynir wrote:Please let me know if you think that "psychiatry" is a conspiracy. Many of us, and some highly intelligent psychiatrists, would consider this mass drugging phenomena to be a terrible conspiracy that is propagated by social, political, and especially industry (economic) organizations. In the case of psychiatry, the conspiracy "event" occurs each time a patient is told that they require medication for life or coerced into believing such things...


Does that mean short-term med use (which I know, in some cases, you believe in) is not part of the conspiracy?

I'm trying to get a handle on whether you think there is a 'good' branch of psychiatry (successfully handling short-term crises with medication) and a covert/conspiratorial side which pushes the 'life-long' angle.
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Re: Conspiracy?

Postby Hurricane » Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:06 pm

Psychiatry is the biggest conspiracy out there today, people are being educated that "the mentally ill" need go to hospital and get "treatment" and medication that they need to help the supposed "chemical imblance (never proven)" in their brain. Every emotion is a mental disorder these days and psychiatrists don't like to let you out of their world once they think your mentally ill they will hound you for years trying to get you on psychiatric drugs. It is disgusting and outrageous but there's absolutely nothing we can do to stop it.
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Re: Conspiracy?

Postby Cledwyn Bulbs » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:01 pm

The idiom and imagery of conspiracy does hee-haw to illuminate the sheer complexity of this issue, which is multifactorially determining. The problem is, in modern culture, many people seem unable to conceive of the simple fact that evil metastasizes without there being any grand conspiracy at the root of it. This is not to say that there haven't been conspiracies, just that in most cases, its use conceals more than it reveals, or that it is too vague a description of what is actually going on.
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Re: Conspiracy?

Postby Cledwyn Bulbs » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:15 pm

The other problem is that it is used by people to discredit a view or an opinion, exploiting its associations in the mass mind with paranoia and stupidity to warn against the adoption of such a view. This is perhaps why people are so eager to make critiques of psychiatry fit their preconceptions about such critiques, because it is an effective means of ensuring that such a view doesn't become culturally normative.

Even in saying this, I am sure some people would just respond, "oh, so you think there is some conspiracy to label certain views as conspiracy theories?" It's basically displacing responsibility for your own thought onto someone else, and making your interlocutor a victim of your ignorance.

That should be "determined" below.
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