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Protracted_Fermata wrote:[mod edit]

Just a little baking soda in river of vinegar.

Copy_Cat wrote:

Protracted_Fermata wrote:[mod edit]

No, it's more than that, it's a question of personal integrity and striving to reduce or at least not increase the total amount of bs on the www. There is nothing wrong with being sceptical or critical of psychiatry but it is important to do so with cogent argument and well-sourced evidence. It is incongruous to criticise psychiatry for not having an evidence-based approach or for being unethical when you are not presenting evidence for your criticisms and inserting stuff you invent into Wikipedia articles. How can it be that you are permitted to do the things that you contend psychiatrists shouldn't do? What is your justification for maintaining essentially two ethical and evidentiary standards? What exempts you from the ethical and evidentiary standards you would like psychitarists to consistently adhere to?

Protracted_Fermata wrote:

Copy_Cat wrote:

Protracted_Fermata wrote:[mod edit]

Just a little baking soda in river of vinegar.

No, it's more than that, it's a question of personal integrity and striving to reduce or at least not increase the total amount of bs on the www. There is nothing wrong with being sceptical or critical of psychiatry but it is important to do so with cogent argument and well-sourced evidence. It is incongruous to criticise psychiatry for not having an evidence-based approach or for being unethical when you are not presenting evidence for your criticisms and inserting stuff you invent into Wikipedia articles. How can it be that you are permitted to do the things that you contend psychiatrists shouldn't do? What is your justification for maintaining essentially two ethical and evidentiary standards? What exempts you from the ethical and evidentiary standards you would like psychitarists to consistently adhere to?

My sources for " [url][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_diagnosis#Past_exposure_to_psychiatric_medications_theory[/url][/url] " are very good.

I was the test subject for many years.

The shrinks should try the drugs themselves, that would be ethical.

Copy_Cat wrote:My sources for " [url][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_diagnosis#Past_exposure_to_psychiatric_medications_theory[/url][/url] " are very good.

No they aren't.

I was the test subject for many years.

So what? There are many people in the USA that don't report a negative experience from their contact with psychiatry.

Protracted_Fermata wrote:

Copy_Cat wrote:My sources for " [url][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_diagnosis#Past_exposure_to_psychiatric_medications_theory[/url][/url] " are very good.

No they aren't.

I was the test subject for many years.

So what? There are many people in the USA that don't report a negative experience from their contact with psychiatry.

Who do I report to ?

Copy_Cat wrote:Who do I report to ?

Yep.

Insults will not be tolerated. Keep it civil or this thread will be locked as well.

Guys, although this is The Anti Psych Forum, where you're all entitled to express your views and opinions, you're still bound by the rules of the forum. Healthy debate is okay, but there can be a line where debate becomes confrontational, insulting or aggressive. That won't be tolerated and things need to be nipped in the bud. Keep the thread civil, okay.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aripiprazole


Abilify for cocaine addiction LMAO WTF !!!


Look at this ref !

We assessed the dose-dependent effects of aripiprazole on conditioned cue-induced and cocaine-primed reinstatement of drug-seeking behavior following chronic intravenous cocaine self-administration in an animal model of relapse.

http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/ ... 06-3223(06)00484-7/abstract

They shot up an animal with cocaine and then got it realy realy stoned on Abilfy so it wanted to eat .

I should say the abilify version of "stoned" brain dead where it also feels like ants are crawling in your muscles and to make em stop you just gota move , the "side" effect of akathisia they don't talk about.

What happended to the animals that hit the coke wile also full of Abilify ? How did they turn out ?

"Based on the pretty negative past encounters between pharma employees and Wikipedia editors (pharma employees trying to edit entries about their own products in a quite non-neutral way), we advise you to employ a Wikipedia editor if you want to make sure only evidence-based information is included in entries about your own products. Appointing someone from within your company as a 'spokesperson' in Wikipedia who would perform all edits on behalf of the company is an excellent way to update those entries."

See http://pharmamkting.blogspot.com/2014/01/is-pharma-working-with-wikipedia-to.html

Below, the pharma hack who blocked my IP on wikipedia for adding true information bad for pharma sales to wiki pages;

“About me
I am a medicinal chemist with a PhD in organic chemistry. I have worked in both academic and industrial settings doing teaching, basic research and applied research mostly in the area of drug discovery. I try to improve Wikipedia by creating, updating, correcting, organizing, and copyediting articles related to organic chemistry, particularly heterocyclic compounds and natural organic compounds. To get a better idea of my interests, just take a look at some of the articles I have started or this gallery of some of the ~5000 chemical structure images I have uploaded, or see my contributions.

As a Wikipedia administrator, the chores that I routinely assist with include speedy deletions, always beginning with the attack articles, and blocking those who abuse their editing privileges.

With my wife and kids, I live in suburban Pennsylvania.”

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Edgar181

I told ya so.