going deeper into the spirit world to understand

chemical balance theory is very limited I am going against what is told of me regarding me having a mental illness with my rotataion of staff at clinic while on CTO, most of what got me was truths and part of my character in development. I had had episodes about 5years and since no medication learnt chi-gong taoist alchemy, high magic . High magic rituals in the past few years and might have been what actually got me in trouble, but throughout the episode sought vengeance over psychiatry/.

had experience with shadowy entity '[should mention I had little guidance in my spiritual endeavors or peer support] This entity was the source of delusion and trauma and had power over emotional states and seems to know a lot about me but infact it is deception it knows nothing but making me in chaos of very depleting intense emotional states and psychosis, I realise now it is associated to trauma or abuse, or abuse inherant in trust issues that resonate with how our personality operates and what makes us tick. So this demon was among other stuff going on like dealings with my shadow and memories coming at me like this was a life review. Thats what was going on in between wayward dreams about the outside world.

I think by going deeper I am learning where I went wrong in the past and deteriorated from sleep deprivation and recently came across the Lesser Banashing Ritual of the Pentagram since I had already learned the kabbalistic cross, these rituals might add a new element with practice to how one views reality and the spirit world that might be the source of mental illness if one is already suffering. It could allow for positive prognosis or attitude toward emotional states and how cyclic is the human organism energy int the body resonating with the mind, through the body, like good diet and sleep a lot of suffering won't exist/

At least I want to reclaim my life from psychiatry and practice my outlook and goals on spiritual development as my fate is not so good on psychiatry,
Ithink getting back into it, has been antidote to the affects of antipsychotics.


hard to describe High magic other then it differs from manipulating the physical universe of wicca and low magic, it is about touching on higher sources it also might open one to astral beings good or bad Lesser banashing ritual of the pentagram is to give more control over what you deal with creating a sacred space that I have already found to lessen congestion that i didn't even realise was there, in my mental capacity and posture feeling clean and pure. hard to describe

as i am not actively psychotic I don;t know of LBRP being good to overcome attack of voices or whatever might get in the way, not that I ever heard voices or hallucinations other then my perception of beings in my space that is normal for someone who is developing spiritually. some stuff might be spontaneous shamanic episodes that normal unsuspecting people might experience..my theory is it is the work of the spirit world yet psychiatry cannot attest to my insight. It would vary between individuals. why should I believe them when they say Its schizophrenia? I don;t agree with it neither the practice of psychiatry being a puppet of pharmakia industry.

i am saddened by the fact that recognizable name tags have to be put on people just because modern medicine fails to believe in alternative theory. some of us, yes US, are not label-able, not crazy, or whatever name people want to put on it. some of us DO, in fact, have a connection to something spiritual, on other levels.... we cannot all be insane!

Connecting with spirits, doing magic, rituals is dangerous.
If all magic, rituals was just a play a lie from ateism point of view it couldnt have done such dramatic damage on people minds health.
All magic, rituals is a way to comunicate with energies that are invisible and have entetie, like spirits. They can only will bring harm and nothing more.
Better go to church and pray for healing if mind and body.
In the church you can communicate whit God trough serving and praying. And only positive things will be gained from this.
Whit magic its the oposite- only negative.

Jesus is a "being" or archetype, just like any other religious figure. Only Christianity has things so purist that it destroys any aspect of mysticism or shamanism.

Wasn't that how the Romans wanted it? My theory is that Christianity was created to overcome the power and spirit of the masses who had high magic and spiritual beings on their side, basically assisting them in peace and creating a better world.

We kinda live in the dark ages again. Well it's like, humanity has one foot in the dark ages, and one foot on its way toward freedom. But no one's going to get anywhere unless some of us are awakened.

immortalsoul wrote:Connecting with spirits, doing magic, rituals is dangerous.

Not true. Spirit guides are a good example of helpful ones to contact. Razael brought up a good point that spirituality should be considered when dealing with mental illness problems. Specific attention was paid to the "spirit world", which I like to refer to as the "shadow world" as the Lakota put it. It's there for those sensitive enough to visit and explore. Spirits who dwell in that realm can be of significant benefit for many reasons. One of the best reasons is guidance. Although they are not necessarily wiser or smarter, they are oftentimes in a better position to see things that you can't. It's a lot like a climbing buddy who has you on belay and helps you find holds to get you past the crux because they have a better angle from away from the wall.

There is a clear misunderstanding of magic on this thread. Magic is nothing more than changes to one's internal world to affect the external world. That's it - none of this white/dark junk. Much of what is classified as magic is nothing esoteric. Some of the esoteric stuff is great, but it's not higher or lower. Also, you don't need to do magic to communicate with spirits.

immortalsoul wrote:Better go to church and pray for healing if mind and body.

I go to church but not for that, rather for spiritual enrichment. I get most of my physical growth in the gym and pool. I work very hard problems for intellectual growth.

bright_star wrote:We kinda live in the dark ages again.

You nailed it.

perhaps leaning magic cold be dangerous, where you need maturity and not deal with bad entities, doesn't mean you can't talk to jesus just by doing the ritual more likely that you have a face to face encounter with him

I did and jesus filled me with golden light was really good and healing, but he couldn;t stick around coz I hadn't learned the banishing ritual and had intrusion of hostile beings, perhaps incorrect practice could cause a problem if attracting bad spirits for some reason.

I got diagnosed schizophrenic fo my stuff with astral plane, since I already have things going on with it, learning how to control this realm is important

the earth might be moving into mass awakenings and return to our roots in spirit like in times of the bible when angels appeared, some unfortunately might have perished from the corruption of mankind into the material plane.

mass awakening is what the world needs, some groups would liken it to the second coming or return of christ, I'm not against that it is the teaching of theosophy although they refer to christ as a different deity, they say christ will come in form of maitreya the cosmic christ.

I'm all for change of this low vibrational herd mentality and psychiatry....My purpose is to give psychiatry a wakeup call but they dont like it and see it that I need more medication. I'm fighting the effects of the meds pretty well.

more light

Magic, comunication, connection with invisible energies might give control, assistance from those enteties but whit it comes dangerous if you do something wrong.
Safe spirital enrichnent comes from service, giving, praying in chruch.
Using invisible energies will allways have a danger if your not strong enought spiritually or making mistake.

immortalsoul wrote:Magic, comunication, connection with invisible energies might give control, assistance from those enteties but whit it comes dangerous if you do something wrong.

Ok, both you and Razael mean well about spiritual matters and you both seem to be attempting to emphasize that spiritual matters should be respected - agreed.

However, both of you are getting confused entirely about the nature of magic. Please read my earlier post on this thread.

As for doing something "wrong" - what the heck are you talking about? Do you have any examples? If you have questions or things that you wish to learn from those in other realms, you still have complete control of how you interpret the information that you recieve. From both of your descriptions, I find it very hard to see how you are able to make such communications. What experience do you have exactly? What so-called "dangers" have you run into?

I can say by teaching myself I missed the LBRP and learnt other rituals that made my light up on the astral plane so I am told, and why I got inundated with hostile entities, If i had guidance leaning it I would never have come to that.

I am probably missing the point that some people might need to work on their emotional or reactive side or karmic [problems if they try to use in the moment psy forces against someone for wrong reasons, like I have done I think and it attacted retaliation in astral events and learnt my lesson, I think....Like bad ex girlfriend and group of people that used to be my friends wanted to seek justice for the lies that were told about me but more so how i had been alienated from the community from the place I moved away from when we broke up, she took a lot of me in that and my old friends etc. They are into magic too and didn't work out too well although it was important for learning about myself, better to not have issues in the first place learning magic.

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my pursuit of justice over psychiatry is valid since it is a shady branch of the law, goddess of devine justice is what is needed although I don't really know what will come about, some limitations in how the psychiatry view me when I desire solitude and free of theirr negative influence overr mental affairs and telling people they will relapse when all they need is more education and methods for overcoming internal stress causing outward problems. At least some effort to understand the "illness" instead of just going with schizophrenia to explain them, its a let down for personal characteristics and some of the beautiful aspects of apparent psychosis.