Psychiatry - modern shamanism

I am quite puzzled how such absurd parody of science can still exists in modern times.
I was reading about psychology and it looks like some kind of cult.

One wise man invents some theory how electrocution of left side of brain can cure schizophrenia which is caused by inadequate dick size.
Some sadists with diplomas pick up that idea as excuse to torture people or extract money and all general population does not even dare to argue as if these quacks with self proclaimed diplomas were some gods.
Shouldn't they provide some evidence like clinical tests or something that this idiotic treatment is doing anything?
Psychiatry has even worse success rate than ancient shamans. Even modern quacks do better job than qualified psychiatrists and their services are cheaper.

Anyone know DSM or ICD?
I cant imagine more idiotic medical book. How can you define some "disorder" by matching 3 out of 10 completely arbitrary symptoms? and how funny is the claim that only qualified psychiatrists can read and interpret that sacred book and put labels on people, nobody else is allowed to make diagnosis.
But as long you get that diploma you are free to diagnose anyone with anything and apply any treatment you can think. I wonder If i could obtain psychiatric diploma and then treat my patients with some "anal rape therapy" I guess other psychiatrists will like it too.

How all that can happen in modern world? It is completely obvious to every scientist that psychiatry is not even remotely related to science it is something like creationism or even worse.

I agree,

Shamanism is a practice that involves a practitioner reaching altered states of consciousness in order to encounter and interact with the spirit world. A shaman is a person regarded as having access to, and influence in, the world of benevolent and malevolent spirits, who typically enters into a trance state during a ritual, and practices divination and healing...

Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamanism

And this ! I love this page,

Welcome to the Church of Psychiatry, where they practice faith-based “medicine”…

No longer are you possessed by demons, able to be cured by trepanning holes into your skull. No, now you have a “brain disorder”, another invisible force inside you acting on you to “cause” you to feel and behave in ways that are separate from who you are as a person, and we call this method of recording unobservable phenomenon…faith-based science. We can’t see it, but we just know it has to be there somewhere, because well, what the ###$ else could it be? Unfortunately, the unseen, undetectable, psychiatric “brain disorder” is incurable. That’s right. You were better off when they were blaming the demons and boring holes in your cranium. Even back then, there is evidence that people survived the “treatments” and tried them again and again.

Read the rest of it here: http://bipolarbabbling.wordpress.com/2012/01/22/psychiatry-faith-based-medicine-and-their-true-believers/

Copy_Cat wrote:faith-based “medicine”…

Well, I can certainly say that Ayahuasca - prepared for a long time by shamans, specifically in south America, is one such "medicine". The active ingedients are DMT and an MAOI so that the DMT can be orally ingested without breaking down in the liver.

I have to say that the DMT experience is extreme, but it is thoroughly interesting for those who have a genuine sense of adventure and who have a hell of a strong mind! I understand why shamans train for years before being ready for such an experience. It is not to be taken lightly, becuase it does take you to another dimension. The perspectives that you gain from such an experience seem to be incredibly helpful.

I have to say that the psychoctic episodes, which were very traumatic and psychedellic in their own right, were very helpful for preparing for a DMT experience. Talking about it would be like explaining a psychotic (manic for example) episode to a normal person. Just isn't possible.

i see it more as the new religion
lord knows it's not science

madjoe wrote:i see it more as the new religion
lord knows it's not science

Science is more like religion than shamanism - this is something that many will have no clue about because they've neither been involved in a truly scientific activity nor have they been involved in a shamanistic activity.

I'm gettig inclined to think that apparent mental illness can be healed by embracing that element like learning spiritual techniques for being in control of what goes on on other planes of existance. Like many brillieant peop[le get let down by psychiatric diagnosis and forced drugging and re-education to see themselves as having an illness that needs drugs.....the influence of the church of psychiatry thought extends throughout society and people are really dumb when it comes to the image of mental health and the society gravitates toward alienation and suppression of these individuals that need guidance and nurturing in some other church or belief system that will teach rituals for banishment. I had increased sensitivity to other planes of existence in the universe and turned out some triggers or conflicts over my freedom for suffering and identity according to the herd of family and influence of associates that mean nothing to me in the greater scope of transcending ordinary bounds of human potentials magickally speaking..

Maybe it is a shame that the esoterics don't have a church or any major religious activity and establishments with money and power to overrun the oporation of the church of psychiatry a group that would embrace our spirituality or life purpose toward embracing what is considered schizophrenic and learning self-healing and self-discipline and wisdom shared in how to identify with other realms, there is lot of bad $#%^ on other planes and is powerful but can easily be overcome if one doesn't buy into the deception and let it cause emotional problems with their lies like panic delusion trauma and anxiety/ More about good prognosis with things like jungian psychotherapy or transpersonal psychology and give respect for the lives of initiates to other realms. About teaching reality and therapy when needed, there might be problems with pent up anger that never taken an assertive stance over or dream of being more perfected in personality function.

I think there counter culture, counter everything, then redefine or fit it in like a parasite. Determining whats wrong with someone, by useing the pill first is so obviuse that a small child can realize "like i was". This isent for shamnizm this is other way around. this is dark shamansim, this is black magic.

They in the hospital setting brainwash you to interpitate your own beliefs diffrently. They tell you that the way you interpitate your own religuse belives are wrong. like they googled the anwsers and dident read the rest. they may even give power to other churches, or diffrent beliving peoples preists.

They dont intend to understand your beliefs to accomdate you, but to change them, or use them against you.

They are there own for profit culture. They may be impearlest and have there own internal free roaming judges. There like a goverment parisite, they latch to variuse goverments, and try and intersect. so its like a global goverment virus and parasite.