Real chemical "imbalance" investigations...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_psychotherapy

can thank Stanslav Grof for investigating altered states of consciousness

Thanks for the responses. Does either of you have info on how to achieve a mystical state where you "seem to perceive everything at once"? I have read of such experiences in books on the paranormal, and they're the type of experience I'm the most curious about, since I'm trying to rule out some theories re the nature of this universe, and can't think of a better way to do that than actually check personally what is going on in that kind of experience.

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meditation can induce mystical states, but not sure on how.... reaching for nirvarna and higher consciousness learning highmagic ritual that was derived from kabbalistic but more tantric then anything.....not sure if it actually worked or not.....microcosmic orbit did some funny $#%^ but that was like a trance and reaching for immortality had visions of reflections of Buddha or and immortal, but state of bliss and perfection it opened the third eye and some crazy explosion when I passed energy into midbrain and then third eye, opening third eye...was kinda crazy, reminded me of DMT I guess, with experience be good to fully practicing shaman and really learning from altered state of consciousness and immunity from psychosis, at least being able to control it and self-discipline for grounding mental state with practice. antipsychotic don't make for practice or perfection, its lazy and apathetic.

be cool if there was legitimate psychedelic therapy then we could talk about it anywhere. war on drugs man\

and your title suggests that pschiatrist actually know very little beyond the layman theory, that mental illness is a chemical balance since the drugs ###$ with the balance. they haven;t explored the abundance of chemical actions in the brain and purpose of naturally occurring states....there i so much out their and lately the NMDA theory has some merits at least possible treatment for some.

like do psychiatrist really get respect for understanding what the drug company tells them about mental illness's. like really they don't actually know that much about what goes on especially from perspective of spiritual states and $#%^ that you can learn from and grow

swim is his pet dinosaur

I wondered what swim was on a forum once talking about those mushrooms with the red and white spots that you can order online can't remember what they are called.

Razael wrote:be cool if there was legitimate psychedelic therapy then we could talk about it anywhere. war on drugs man\

True that.

Razael wrote:and your title suggests that pschiatrist actually know very little beyond the layman theory, that mental illness is a chemical balance since the drugs ###$ with the balance. they haven;t explored the abundance of chemical actions in the brain and purpose of naturally occurring states....there i so much out their and lately the NMDA theory has some merits at least possible treatment for some.

One motivation for not exploring "naturally" occuring substances is due to patent law. Companies look to "synthesize" or "semi-synthesize" a chemical to make money.

Razael wrote:like do psychiatrist really get respect for understanding what the drug company tells them about mental illness's. like really they don't actually know that much about what goes on especially from perspective of spiritual states and $#%^ that you can learn from and grow

You're dead right here - the docs should be focused on where growth is needed, and I know that for me spiritual strength was a weak link that kept breaking down under stress. I'm continually working to improve my strength because it seems to me that I will never be strong enough.

DMT the spirit molecule is naturally occuring in the brain maybe all species have it, you are exploring something natural...may be use it to get idea about how the human mind works, and expanse into planes of existance witnessing other realms that are available through spiritual ritual or alchemy practice maybe monks have access to resources of spirit molecule as would ultimate of shamanism to be able to control mystical states through self-discipline and training.

psychiatry certainly isn;t training...I remember my first few episodes and crisis in the fabric of family dreamed that there is some group out there who cares to make the most of my potentials that are lost from psychiatric treatments, its a real let down being reduced to a label for the rest of your life based on pseudo-science and drugged into oblivion.