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Why do you hate psychiatry?

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Re: Why do you hate psychiatry?

Postby Copy_Cat » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:09 pm

Hate-

1a : intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury
b : extreme dislike or antipathy

More recently, the Penguin Dictionary of Psychology defines hate as a "deep, enduring, intense emotion expressing animosity, anger, and hostility towards a person, group, or object."

Why do I hate psychiatry ? I have many reasons, here is one more.

There medication that was sold to me with lies made me very sick. http://www.zyprexa-victims.com a website made by another victim.

After making me real sick from there drugs to make a profit, I went to the hospital for help and and told the 'sickness' was my own so called 'mental illness' (an illness I did not have before psych drugs) I was subjected to locked doors , I was strip searched naked against my will 'skin assesment' , I was threatened with a forced injection (chemical rape) If I did not take more drugs like Zyprexa. I had to submit to 'mouth checks' to be sure I swallowed there brain disabling toxins. (every pill against my will is a count of chemical rape) I was threatened with long term lockup in a state hospital.

I was brutalized, traumatized and chemicaly raped. I will always hate them.
I survived psychiatry.
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Re: Why do you hate psychiatry?

Postby cantremembermyname » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:00 am

slither wrote:I hate it because it wasn't able to save my brother. He was forced to take pills that made him very sick.
Before he died, he wrote a very small book. I think it has the potential to help a lot of people.

You can read it in about 20 minutes, but it may take you a lifetime to comprehend all of it.
If anyone is interested, I will PM it to you.
Just ask.


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Re: Why do you hate psychiatry?

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Re: Why do you hate psychiatry?

Postby slither » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:58 am

That was very insightful. Thank you.

As I said, I'm dealing with a fair share of paranoia at the moment, but this book is also a project that isn't yet finished (may never be)

I guess you could say that I've been dropping fragments of it on the web.

Lately, I've been trying to explain certain phenomena and behaviors of all life on Earth:

Evolution is simply a measurement of the complexity of one's DNA. The more evolved, the more self aware, and the higher the potential for asking questions that have never been asked before.

Less evolved life will always see more evolved life as potentially evil, mysterious, or even worthy of worship.

I believe that as you evolve, your conscious brain is capable of existing in one primary location, while it can "ghost" visit locations deeper inside of itself. The more intelligent (or the higher the mental mass if you're a scientologist) the more vividly you can do this, or perhaps even dream at night.

Earth very may well be the brain of Jesus Christ, while the last time he was on it, he was just dreaming...and he stays awake for thousands of years, relative to us.

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The universe is a quantum-tessellation of similar patterns that are never exactly the same. Each brain can be thought of as a smaller universe in a larger universe, or even a multiverse.

String theory: There is no such thing as pushing.

If you "push" someone, it means that you allowed someone to pull your strings and were not disciplined to remain "cool"

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Re: Why do you hate psychiatry?

Postby Riccola » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:06 pm

slither wrote:That was very insightful. Thank you.

As I said, I'm dealing with a fair share of paranoia at the moment, but this book is also a project that isn't yet finished (may never be)

I guess you could say that I've been dropping fragments of it on the web.

Lately, I've been trying to explain certain phenomena and behaviors of all life on Earth:

Evolution is simply a measurement of the complexity of one's DNA. The more evolved, the more self aware, and the higher the potential for asking questions that have never been asked before.

Less evolved life will always see more evolved life as potentially evil, mysterious, or even worthy of worship.

I believe that as you evolve, your conscious brain is capable of existing in one primary location, while it can "ghost" visit locations deeper inside of itself. The more intelligent (or the higher the mental mass if you're a scientologist) the more vividly you can do this, or perhaps even dream at night.

Earth very may well be the brain of Jesus Christ, while the last time he was on it, he was just dreaming...and he stays awake for thousands of years, relative to us.

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The universe is a quantum-tessellation of similar patterns that are never exactly the same. Each brain can be thought of as a smaller universe in a larger universe, or even a multiverse.

String theory: There is no such thing as pushing.

If you "push" someone, it means that you allowed someone to pull your strings and were not disciplined to remain "cool"

(signature is my url for the more "out-there" stuff)


In do agree. Intelligence is not something respected by those who do not have it. Often some of the smartest people are in Psych wards because they are misunderstood. Unfortunately smart people quickly learn to loath dumb people, and that in of itself is a major problem of concern. Especially when they gain control of something. I know that when I would display certain spiritual qualities or analytical skills psychiatrists took it as insanity, which is really a term that that means "your to complex for us to help you so to make it easier for ourselves will take away your rights as a human being" Simple dismissal of the other person through persieved defect.

Environment is the engineer of change governing genetics. Genetics promise one thing: a highly plastic mind, one that can be made to process anything. The brain is a contingencies response organ, dedicating itself to that matrix in order to protect itself and survival. At least in my theory. The way one is treated growing up has everything to do with the way one deals with others and the environment.

Psychiatry is a system to restore the original system. Its a money maker. A Psychiatrist never sees that at the other end there is a person capable of thought or contribution. They cant see there own actions as the reason for another persons insanity, and if they can they dont care. Psychiatrists become what they are either to make a ton of cash or to control people or both. Go to school, learn that everyone is seriously ill except you, abuse people, get paid. Parents are happy, people respect you, your rich. If only that was the only part of it.
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Re: Why do you hate psychiatry?

Postby slither » Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:31 pm

Consider your brain at birth to be a very rough and jagged stone, like the end of this flail.

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Ideally, your life experiences will polish this stone until a diamond beneath it is revealed.

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The problem that a lot of people encounter, is that instead of keeping their diamond well rounded, they choose to polish it and hack it to pieces:

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The tip of this stone would be their tongue

Now you have an effective tool for carving your will into the minds of others. Nothing is better at scratching another diamond, than a really pointy and careless diamond.

There is an upside to this, however; as perhaps the hardest substance in the universe, almost nothing can break you, and when you allow yourself to be well rounded, words and thoughts tend to roll right over you, and when someone tries to squeeze you, you simply slip away.

Imagine trying to squeeze a steel ball bearing with your fingers.
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No human is strong enough to break or reshape it, and it will tend to slip out of your hands the harder you squeeze it. The mind is no different, and the body always follows it's lead.

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Why creativity is dwindling:

Because even thoughts cause pollution...our planet is covered in the smog of repetition, and no one can breath in new ideas without exhaling old ideas along with them.

What if I told you that everyone speaks a slightly different dialect of the same language? When I hear people speaking French, Japanese, Korean, Spanish, English, etc....all I can hear is "I WANT A BETTER FUTURE I WANT A BETTER FUTURE I WANT A BETTER FUTURE"

You are all shouting the same exact thing, and because you cannot keep your mouth closed, you cannot hear the person who can give you the answers you have been searching for your entire life.

The truth is always a beautiful thing, and it often not heard, but seen with your eyes.

But, no one seeks the same truth...this is why we all tend to go our separate ways...when there is no more room to be unique, you must be willing to help each other find room.

Antarctica is literally begging to be populated with research facilities and cities.

It's simple thermodynamics, really.

A hot environment will make you hostile to one another.

A cold environment will encourage you to work together.

Even your electronics work better when you keep them cold, and fail when you allow them to melt.

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Re: Why do you hate psychiatry?

Postby Riccola » Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:09 am

The brain at birth is neither pointed nor smooth. Its a pile of logs and pipes ready to be made into a house by the environment, so to speak.

However, what do you believe will make our future better? I need your advice, Im listening.

BTW, why do some people choose to polish their diamond and others fracture it? Free will is dictated by the amount you were given to begin with.
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Re: Why do you hate psychiatry?

Postby slither » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:04 am

Riccola wrote:The brain at birth is neither pointed nor smooth. Its a pile of logs and pipes ready to be made into a house by the environment, so to speak.

However, what do you believe will make our future better? I need your advice, Im listening.

BTW, why do some people choose to polish their diamond and others fracture it? Free will is dictated by the amount you were given to begin with.


Free will can be developed by mastering your own mind, and the reason why few people are masters of themselves, is because their is nothing more difficult than teaching people how to take control of their own life, as none of us learn the same.

Every star in the night sky did not achieve fusion the same exact way; before they became stars, they had to watch how others did it, even if it seemed like a pipe dream.

The key is not being afraid to dream. All of that stuff we often hear at a young age about being all we can be, is a simplified version of what you should try to relearn later in life when you're ready. It sounded like BS, but that was the only way to get you to rediscover it on your own.

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Spherical diamonds/people like to explore and experience all that can be experienced, while those who are rough, need or even want to be rounded down by them.

Fractured/sharp diamonds are basically people very afraid to control themselves, so they attempt control others, but fail to realize they have even less control than the people they command. The leaders are often the students, and the teacher is often the one who needs to be taught how to teach again.
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I'm not a scientologist, but one concept, or perhaps only just the phrase they have, "Mental Mass"

I find to be very useful.

Look at the binary Microprocessor:

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Modern architectures have 1 to in excess of 50 cores, and can run in massively parallel systems to boost processing power as needed. They have hundreds of millions of transistors, while GPUs have billions of transistors, and are also ran in parallel for physics simulations.

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As time has passed, people have learned to make more out of less; your first CPUs looked like this:

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and they didn't even need a heat sink to keep cool.
Notice how it looks like a caterpillar or centipede?

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Recognize anything?

What is the best computer? What is this mythical quantum computer your scientists are trying to develop? It is the human mind.

Your brain can rewire itself in real time, and there is no limit to the amount of connections you can make. Your head is the best physics simulator on the planet, but it takes time to learn how to use it.

The more connections you have, the higher you can say that your mental mass is;
mass causes gravity, and gravity causes influence (spinning; sense of direction, etc)

Density allows someone with more mental mass/gravity than a galactic black hole to exist on Earth, and the Earth and sun would be totally oblivious to the fact that they are both orbiting a single human.
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What I think can make the future better:

Reinstatement of free thinking, teaching people the true meaning of empathy, and understanding how religion and science were always just a nickel and a dime.

Your black holes were always just stars that fell inwards so that they could guide smaller stars, while appearing equal to them.

They are literally ghost riding smaller stars or hiding in plain sight; the black hole is just their location in space, and they look absent when they decide to travel inwards. When they expand back to their original size, they appear to just be another supergiant star.
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Re: Why do you hate psychiatry?

Postby Cheze2 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:39 am

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Re: Why do you hate psychiatry?

Postby Cledwyn Bulbs » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:36 pm

One of the reasons I hate psychiatry is because I tend to hate what we're not supposed to hate. Forbidden fruit tastes the sweeter. I am something of a contrarian also, and in an age when it is contrarian to be contrarian, I like contrarianism.

On a more serious note, I would say that I hate psychiatry because in psychiatry is concentrated all the things I loathe the most about human society; hypocrisy, scapegoating, ethnocentrism, intolerance of diversity, dogmatism etc..

I hate the fact also that psychiatric theory confers a kind of secular sanctity on the lunacy of the herd, when in my opinion, lunacy resides within us all. As many psychologists and social psychologists have proposed, man is a predominantly irrational creature, yet mental health theory denies this, creating all sorts of linguistic distinctions between essentially cognate forms of lunacy, reserving its stigmatizing labels for the most wretched, powerless and despised who eke out their existence on the margins of society, whilst conferring the honour of "mental health" on people who are no more sane because they are economically productive, because their views are culturally normative (no matter how patently delusional) and their behaviours come with the imprimatur of convention, of psychiatry, of the majority and of the state.

It all savors of scapegoating, albeit encased in a pseudo-medical, pseudo-therapeutic veneer.
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