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Why do you hate psychiatry?

Postby slither » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:31 pm

I hate it because it wasn't able to save my brother. He was forced to take pills that made him very sick.
Before he died, he wrote a very small book. I think it has the potential to help a lot of people.

You can read it in about 20 minutes, but it may take you a lifetime to comprehend all of it.
If anyone is interested, I will PM it to you.
Just ask.


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Re: Why do you hate psychiatry?

Postby Chrysaor686 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:59 am

I would very much like to see your brother's book.
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Re: Why do you hate psychiatry?

Postby WiseMonkey » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:50 am

I'd love to read his book too. I am VERY interested to know about the experiences of those who was harmed by psychiatry. I am sorry your brother had suffered at the hands of psychiatrists.
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Re: Why do you hate psychiatry?

Postby ƒrosty » Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:57 am

Sure, yeah; send it my way if you would.
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Re: Why do you hate psychiatry?

Postby Ian Reynir » Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:33 pm

I read this book/essay carefully, and some of this is very similar to thoughts I had on the nature of our universe. I tend to think in terms of aether particles, which is very consistent with your brother's writing.

While this is interesting and thought provoking, I'm not sure how it could help many mentally ill people, other than the parts about 1) not living in the present and 2) being stuck in the wrong dimension. It would have been nice if the whole essay was dedicated to those two relatively small parts of this work.

I wish that your brother would have addressed astral realms because it seems likely that he was communicating with others in another plane. His senses were likely greatly enhanced at the same time that he may have experienced instability and/or psychosis. Thus, I'm not suprised by the incite. I have similar writings. My current progress is slower but steady because I'm maintaining stability, so a solid and conservative pace is important when communicating with other realms. Have you been involved in communications of this sort?

I agree that physics profs would likely reject all of the notions out of hand since they are too far from the convention. Psychiatrist wouldn't be much help either...
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Re: Why do you hate psychiatry?

Postby WiseMonkey » Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:25 pm

@slither
If you send me your brother's essay, I promise I won't judge it in any way. I accept other people's experiences just as they are. I also believe that every human experience is valuable to others and will appreciate what your brother wrote just as it is, on its own terms.
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Re: Why do you hate psychiatry?

Postby Ian Reynir » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:58 pm

I just re-read my last post and realize I may have been overly critical of your brother's essay. It is a very interesting read. I guess I was anticipating something more targeted at antipsychiatry or at mental illness in particular. But is was a cool read - thanks for sharing! :wink:
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Re: Why do you hate psychiatry?

Postby slither » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:41 am

I'm sorry; I wasn't logging in very much, and I was only checking for PMs.

I will work on PM-ing to all those who have asked for it so far.


I think the essay is really just a "medium" for slowly trying to get others to see as he saw it. He wanted to be very careful not to disturb anyone, as the ideas and philosophical ramifications are far higher than a lot of people are willing to believe at this moment in time.

Basically, conventional thinking will be our undoing, and we need to learn to think for ourselves before anything will be changed.

As for the astral planes comment, that is exactly what he meant by dimensional relativity. Basically, the physicists at the hadron collider are seeking the god particle--the one that will explain everything. This is their problem--the way they think about it; there is no single explanation, only a quantum continuum of past, present, and future; he goes into very high level physics, far beyond what even NASA has going on, and even started designs on how to build the first quantum computer, and using it as a 3D printer for molecular reconstruction (regrowing/repairing body parts), and how to mass produce carbon nanotubes structures, and he even started plans on how to develop an ION propulsion engine that will pull a space ship through space, rather than propel it. Taking us to the moon almost instantly, and it's powered only by solar electricity and water.

In his writings, he also mentioned that he used his higher understanding of physics and applied it to light and CMOS digital cameras to make a $500 dollar camera outperform a $5000 full frame DSLR. I'll have to look for some of his pictures.

But, despite all this, no one listened to him (not even me), and they labeled him as insane and locked him away.

I will continue to pm the essay to everyone that wants to read it.
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Re: Why do you hate psychiatry?

Postby Rattatat » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:40 am

This sounds a bit over my head so I won't bother asking for it. I'm srry about your brother. Can you let us in the know of what poison he was forced on??
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Re: Why do you hate psychiatry?

Postby Copy_Cat » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:59 pm

I hate it cause it made into a mentally ill pill addict for 8 years and my father passed away wile I was like that.

25 more reasons from antipsychiatry.org

1. Because psychiatrists frequently cause harm, permanent disabilities, death - death of the body-mind-spirit.

2. Because psychiatrists frequently violate the Hippocratic Oath which orders all physicians "First Do No Harm."

3. Because psychiatrists patronize and disempower people, especially their patients.

4. Because psychiatry is not a medical science.

5. Because psychiatry is quackery, a pseudo-science which lacks independent diagnostic tests, testable hypotheses, and cures for "schizophrenia" and all other types of alleged "mental illness" or "mental disorder".

6. Because psychiatrists can not accurately and reliably predict dangerousness, violence, or any other type of human behaviour, yet make such claims as "expert witnesses", and with the media promote the "dangerous mental patient" myth/stereotype.

7. Because psychiatrists have caused a worldwide epidemic of brain damage by promoting and prescribing brain-disabling treatments such as the neuroleptics, antidepressants, electroconvulsive brainwashing (electroshock), and psychosurgery (lobotomy).

8. Because psychiatrists manufacture hundreds of "mental disorders" classified in its bible called "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders" (a modern witch-hunting manual); such "mental disorders" and "symptoms" are in fact negative, class-and-culturally-biased moral judgments for dissident ways of coping with personal problems and alternative ways of perceiving, interpreting or being in the world.

9. Because psychiatrists, blinded by their medical model bias, fraudulently pathologize and label people's serious life or existential crises as "symptoms" of "mental illness" or "mental disorder" such as "schizophrenia","bipolar affective disorder", and "personality disorder".

10. Because psychiatrists compound this fraud by falsely claiming, without scientific proof, that these "mental disorders" are caused by a "biochemical imbalance" in the brain, genetic factors or "genetic predispositions", despite the fact that there are no genetic factors in "mental illness".

11. Because psychiatrists frequently misinform their patients, families and the public by claiming that brain-disabling procedures such as the neurotoxins (e.g.,"antipsychotic medication" and "antidepressasnts"), electroconvulsive brainwashing (electroconvulsive therapy/"ECT"), psychosurgery (lobotomy) and other behaviour modification-mind control procedures are "safe, effective and lifesaving". The exact opposite is tragically true.

12. Because psychiatrists routinely deceive or lie to patients, prisoners, their families, and the public.

13. Because psychiatrists routinely and willfully violate the medical-ethical principle of "informed consent" by misinforming or not informing their patients about the numerous toxic, disabling and frequently permanent effects of the neuroleptics such as memory loss, tardive dyskinesia, tardive psychosis, parkinsonism, dementia (all signs of brain damage), and death.

14. Because psychiatrists routinely threaten, intimidate or coerce many patients - particularly women, children, the elderly, and prisoners - into consenting to health-threatening/brain-damaging "treatment" such as the antidepressants, neuroleptics, electroconvulsive brainwashing, and hi-risk experiments.

15. Because psychiatrists frequently fail to fully inform psychiatric inmates and prisoners about existing safe and humane, non-medical alternatives in the community such as survivor-controlled crisis centres, drop-ins, self-help or advocacy groups, diet, massage, wholistic medicine, affordable supportive housing, and jobs.

16. Because psychiatrists are sexist in frequently stereotyping women in crisis as "hysterical" or "over-emotional", blaming women whenever they voice real complaints and assertively express their feelings and emotions, prescribing massive doses of tranquilizers and antidrepressants to disproportionately large numbers of women, and in sexually assaulting women in their offices and institutions.

17. Because psychiatrists, particularly white male psychiatrists, are homophobic - the American Psychiatric Association (APA) once labelled homosexuality as a "mental illness" or "mental disorder" - and have used forced electroshock on lesbians, trying to coerce them into adopting a heterosexual life style.

18. Because psychiatrists are ageist in prescribing tranquilizers, antidepressants ("medication") and electroconvulsive brainwashing for disproportionately large numbers of elderly people - a form of elder abuse.

19. Because psychiatrists are racist in disproportionately incarcerating and drugging people of African descent, aboringal people, other people of colour and labelling them "psychotic" or "schizophrenic".

20. Because psychiatrists routinely violate people's civil rights, human rights and constitutional rights such as imprisoning innocent people without court trial or public hearing ("involuntary commitment"), and subjecting them to cruel and unusual punishments or tortures such as forced drugging, electroconvulsive brainwashing, psychosurgery, solitary confinement, "chemical restraints", and 4-point or 5-point restraints.

21. Because psychiatrists masterminded the mass murder of hundreds of thousands of vulnerable people including disabled children, the elderly and psychiatric patients during The Holocaust in Nazi Germany, and "selected" hundreds of thousands of concentration camp prisoners for death ("T-4 euthanasia" program) - historical facts still missing in psychiatric textbooks and histories.

22. Because psychiatrists have willingly participated in and administered mind-control experiments in the United States and Canada since the early 1950s - its chief targets have been poor patients, women, dissidents and prisoners.

23. Because psychiatry, particularly institutional-biological psychiatry, is based on the 3 Fs: Fear, Fraud,and Force.

24. Because psychiatry is a form of social control or punishment - not treatment.

25. Because psychiatry, particularly institutional-biological psychiatry, is fascist - a direct threat to democracy, human rights and life.

http://www.antipsychiatry.org/25reason.htm
I survived psychiatry.
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