Medication and Recovery. The Spurious Link

I made the point in this thread, http://www.psychforums.com/anti-psych/topic105166.html, that there can be very little observation on the ward but that a report is made at the end of each day on a patient's progress. To say the least this calls into question the validity of the report. Having said that one of the things they do is to monitor if you are in bed during the day. I suspect that if you are spending time in bed during the day it will reflect badly, but the sedating effect of the antipsychotic is difficult to cope with.

There is another aspect to this, which is the link between recovery and medication that is usually established. On my previous two admissions to hospital, which were for approximately three months each, my behaviour, which was quite normal, was very consistent from admission to discharge. However, at the discharge I was informed that it was the medication that was responsible for my recovery, when there was no recovery to me made. The problem with this is that you are then known to be someone who responds to medication when this is clearly not the case. If this is a widespread practise then they are in effect fabricating the link between recovery and medication.

In the area of anxiety disorders it is repeatedly found that after stopping medication patients who received medication and psychotherapy do less well than patients only receiving psychotherapy.
To find out why, they gave claustrophobic patients a inactive pill before exposure treatment. Exposure treatment reduces anxiety for something by being exposed to it.

If it was said that the pill reduced fear, claustrophobia returned more often then when it was said that the pill was inactive or increased fear.

A more detailed description of the experiment can be found at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18540741.

So by attributing improvement to medication they make people believe that they need the medication to stay fearless.

totally agree that the quacks and establishment make the link between medication and recovery...I have a similar story to yours except my second most recent admission the medication impeded recovery and caused its own illness, the most recent time I regurgitated pills for about 4days then refused meds and had recovered but they don;t acknowledge recovery and like you I have have made no progress from these times yet they claim the drugs are effective . They let me out about 4days after my injection , even though I had been refusing medications they claim my recovery was medications.

It is really frustrating especially since psychiatry establishment is deluded about psychosis and medications, a great majority will recover without medication especially in therapeutic environment that is convenient in agrivating the stress levels and feelings of personality oppression and betrayal of justice that stirrs stuff like grandeur when dealing with quacks and agitation...and importantly when they let you out this stuff isn;t a problem so improvement in these area's is a myth....or they see the effect of dopamine effecting motivation and enthusiasm and cognitive function to make a fuss about treatment, like the drugs leave you with nothing to complain about or no stand to be made, coz they see patients making a stand as typical of psychosis they see it as recovery to be numbed down and unresponsive.

Try communicating this to treatment team they are ignorant and aloof to consider what the point is, the only way to communicate things is not about the drugs affecting cognitive and mood function coz they make it out to be part of an illness and not the affect of the drugs, that is obvious for any normal person on them for a long time will have these symptoms and complaints,,,its only worthwhile talking about sedation and things that make sense to the quack and give the impression that you trust them and maybe request lower dosages, to which they attribute with fear factor to relapse, a bit off topic sorry, maybe I should just leave this short and sweet for a change instead of talking about all the stuff thats been on my mind, what remains of my mind, and no its not an illness its the psych drugs, or not enough drugs to compensate

-- Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:47 am --

did i get across that like you my mental state has not improved since time in hospital, it has deteriorated yet this deterioration and sedation is called recovery because i am unable to vocalise my opposition to the establishment and have less feelings about my place in the psychiatric establishment, plus I'm not dealing with oppressive environment of hospital so I am more content, this obviously isn;t from the medications yet they like to think it is...or the meds simply make one content and complacent to be treated with disrespect , then they get treated like the meds have made for recovery, like they have but what is recovery to them? pretty shady area obviously

not that this is worthwhile anyway to make a fuss because they discriminated anything like that as problems with insight [gullibility] and perhaps delusions, yet we are working around professionals that have been deluded by the drug industry marketing things like brain chemical imbalance which is just a clever theory to market drugs that supposedly correct an imbalance...more like the imbalance the drugs cause have a therapeutic response of sedation and causing problems with cognitive process's that used to be able to form "idea's" and ideas are sometimes trouble, yet getting rid of this mechanism has its drawbacks and not limited to delusion.

I have a lot to say in writing but I'm basically mute when talking to the establishment.

I be interested if I manage to get lower dosage or onto oral tabs whether my incoherance in writing will improve....theoretically psych drugs could make this happen since working memory is requiring dopamine function, focus and things like that are effected by antipsychotics

nice information. thank you for sharing it.

thanks
packersm