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Are the words "may" and "linked to" invisible to most people

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Re: Are the words "may" and "linked to" invisible to most pe

Postby Cheze2 » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:41 pm

WiseMonkey wrote:@Cheze2 What research?

Whether there is any correlation between rates of violence, poverty, social injustices, and dysfunctional communities/families during different points in history and the rates of mental illness.

In the US,
An estimated 26.2 percent of Americans ages 18 and older — about one in four adults — suffer from a diagnosable mental disorder in a given year
http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/the-numbers-count-mental-disorders-in-america/index.shtml#KesslerPrevalence
I wonder if that number was lower in previous points during history. You were saying that mental illness comes from these social issues and that society would have to start facing these things to help reduce mental illness. I think that society has always faced these types of issues in the past, and at different points in history, perhaps even more so than now. It seems to me that mental illness is more prevalent today than at different points in the past. It would be interesting to see a study of whether or not this is true. Of course there would be a lot of factors to take into account, such as the fact that many people didn't recognize mental illness in the past. One could also argue that psychiatrists are pathologizing "normal" behavior and calling it mental illness in some people in order to get them on drugs and thus get a kickback from the pharmaceutical industry which could be one reason for the higher numbers. I just think it would be interesting to see some kind of study on these types of things.
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Re: Are the words "may" and "linked to" invisible to most pe

Postby Rattatat » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:48 pm

100 years ago people were driving a horse to get from a to b. Nowadays technology is far more advanced. If you were to believe that mental illness factors in 'environment' then you would also believe today more mental illness is prevalent especially in an environemnt where 9/10 people are cowboys.
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Re: Are the words "may" and "linked to" invisible to most pe

Postby WiseMonkey » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:00 am

@Rattatat What I was saying had nothing to do with technology :D Never mind. Forget it.
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Postby AnxxietyAttacks » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:17 pm

try to get around those words though in a psych hospital. they just inject you. which makes things seem so useless sometimes.
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Re: Are the words "may" and "linked to" invisible to most pe

Postby Foucault » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:29 am

"May "and "linked to" appear to be a marketing strategies... its not definitive and therefore, the advertiser could not be held responsible for any misinterpretation gleaned from such comments. It seems likely however, that "may" could imply "does" and "linked to" probably implies that it is linked.
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Re: Are the words "may" and "linked to" invisible to most pe

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:47 am

AnxxietyAttacks wrote:try to get around those words though in a psych hospital. they just inject you. which makes things seem so useless sometimes.


I know , I lived the hospital nightmare a few times after my doctors reckless perscribing and my stupid trust of him landed me there a few times. I don't use the word nightmare lightly, going to the ER raked with hellish panic attacks from what all the pills did to me and then have to hand over my cigarettes, wallet and clothing to get in the gown for "observation" praying for the benzo rx and not the psych ward wile half naked with security between me and the door. The first time I was subject to mouth checks and threatened with injection my whole view of them changed, I knew from that point psychiatry was evil. As Forest Gump would say "evil is what evil does". How can something called "help" be so discusting and abusive I asked myself and couldent come up with an awnser.

When I was sick from the Zyprexa withdrawal panic attacks combined with vomitting I went to the ER thinking I would get a benzo Rx, an explanation of my gastrointestinal distress and a remedy for it. Instead I left with an Rx for more Zyprexa cause it was that or psych upstairs. I tryed to wean myself off it so I could feel life without that poison in my body blocking good feelings but when that Rx ran out a few weeks later again I got sick with the sickness from hell again, panic attacks, vomitting and insomnia to the breaking point... It was this point in my long hellish ride through psychiatry I first heard those words "injectable form".

AnxxietyAttacks wrote:try to get around those words though in a psych hospital. they just inject you. which makes things seem so useless sometimes.


I don't know what to tell you, I once made threats back and threw around the words chemical rape to describe how I felt about injectable form and what they call help before calling that phone number for the legal aid human rights advocate on the patient bill of rights poster who helped me by calling that hosptal doctor who then backed off.
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