Is schizophrenia just a name!?

I live in New Zealand so there are no states just a country. The girl I wrote about in my opening post who took off up north had all her info sent up there. Basically you will be hunted down within your own country cause you are treated like a criminal with no right to choose how to treat your own body and mind. It was the nurse that injects me who told me about her so I asked what happened to her...

The only way around this is to leave the country but that would take a lot of money. I really to need to start saving for this and be careful not to end up under the mental health act.

Don't get me wrong though I've met a lot of really nice people within the mental health system. It's just this one idiot who seems more like a dictator trying to enforce his views by gambling with other people's lives. ONE person should not have that much power.

Something I haven't tried is asking to have my doctor changed. Hmmmm....

What happened that led you to see a doctor? Is there any way you can appeal or fight for freedom from the drugging you're being forced to endure?

"SSRIs have the power to markedly improve mood, outlook, and behavior in people with depression. Although often positive, these same benefits can also be a cause of concern to many people. Will taking an SSRI change you into someone else? Most depression experts would say that when antidepressants are effective, they take away the negative effects of depression that mask your real self; antidepressants can reveal someone's true personality (rather than change it) by lifting the veil of depression."

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Drugs.com also reports: Fanapt

Psychiatric side effects including restlessness, aggression, and delusion have been reported frequently. Hostility, decreased libido, paranoia, anorgasmia, confusional state, mania, catatonia, mood swings, panic attack, obsessive-compulsive disorder, bulimia nervosa, delirium, polydipsia psychogenic, impulse-control disorder, and major depression have been reported infrequently.

1. Huntsville, Alabama – February 5, 2010: 15-year-old Hammad Memon shot and killed another Discover Middle School student Todd Brown. Memon had a history for being treated for ADHD and depression. He was taking the antidepressant Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.” He had been seeing a psychiatrist and psychologist.

2. Kauhajoki, Finland – September 23, 2008: 22-year-old culinary student Matti Saari shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine. He was also seeing a psychologist.

3. Dekalb, Illinois – February 14, 2008: 27-year-old Steven Kazmierczak shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amount of Xanax in his system. He had been seeing a psychiatrist.

4. Jokela, Finland – November 7, 2007: 18-year-old Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School in southern Finland, then committed suicide.

5. Cleveland, Ohio – October 10, 2007: 14-year-old Asa Coon stormed through his school with a gun in each hand, shooting and wounding four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon had been placed on the antidepressant Trazodone.

6. Red Lake, Minnesota – March 2005: 16-year-old Jeff Weise, on Prozac, shot and killed his grandparents, then went to his school on the Red Lake Indian Reservation where he shot dead 7 students and a teacher, and wounded 7 before killing himself.

7. Greenbush, New York – February 2004: 16-year-old Jon Romano strolled into his high school in east Greenbush and opened fire with a shotgun. Special education teacher Michael Bennett was hit in the leg. Romano had been taking “medication for depression”. He had previously seen a psychiatrist.

8. Wahluke, Washington – April 10, 2001: Sixteen-year-old Cory Baadsgaard took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates and a teacher hostage. He had been taking the antidepressant Effexor.

9. El Cajon, California – March 22, 2001: 18-year-old Jason Hoffman, on the antidepressants Celexa and Effexor, opened fire on his classmates, wounding three students and two teachers at Granite Hills High School. He had been seeing a psychiatrist before the shooting.

10. Williamsport, Pennsylvania – March 7, 2001: 14-year-old Elizabeth Bush was taking the antidepressant Prozac when she shot at fellow students, wounding one.

11. Conyers, Georgia – May 20, 1999: 15-year-old T.J. Solomon was being treated with the stimulant Ritalin when he opened fire on and wounded six of his classmates.

12. Columbine, Colorado – April 20, 1999: 18-year-old Eric Harris and his accomplice, Dylan Klebold, killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 26 others before killing themselves. Harris was on the antidepressant Luvox. Klebold’s medical records remain sealed. Both shooters had been in anger-management classes and had undergone counseling. Harris had been seeing a psychiatrist before the shooting.

13. Notus, Idaho – April 16, 1999: 15-year-old Shawn Cooper fired two shotgun rounds in his school, narrowly missing students. He was taking a prescribed SSRI antidepressant and Ritalin.

14. Springfield, Oregon – May 21, 1998: 15-year-old Kip Kinkel murdered his parents and then proceeded to school where he opened fire on students in the cafeteria, killing two and wounding 25. Kinkel had been taking the antidepressant Prozac. Kinkel had been attending “anger control classes” and was under the care of a psychologist.

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AKA most drugs are $#%^.

For background, I am not anti-psychiatry, I'm pro-psychiatry. And I do suspect that you're delusional - at least you sound like it from what little I've read from you. I couldn't possibly know, but I wouldn't be surprised if you did have schizophrenia.

But your posts got me to actually read about the New Zealand Mental Health Act. Not on anti-psych sites, but on the New Zealand government site, and the Mental Health Association of New Zealand site.

...And I am completely speechless. And furious. That such a dangerous, backward law could have been written. In 1992. You're right - you have no real rights under the Act. In fact you're understating things - if anything you have fewer rights and protections than a criminal would have.

The criteria for which "mental disorders" justify (require?) compulsory treatment are so broad they could arguably cover almost anyone with any significant mental health issue. There is no requirement that your "disorder" is even serious or affects your ability to make sound decisions. There seems to be a "dangerousness" requirement, but the definition of danger and what the danger is to is so broad it also could cover almost anything. Including a danger to your "mental health." Which is utterly tautological.

There is not even a minimal attempt to ensure that the treatments forced on you are safe, beneficial, or medically appropriate. No requirements that the person who decides your treatment (and your fate) has even minimal training in psychiatry or psychopharmacology.

There are no protections for your privacy - you can expect your family will be informed of anything and everything whether you want them to or not. In fact the law practically demands it.

Yes, you do have the right to a second opinion...but there are no provisions that the second opinion must matter or carry any weight. Your "responsible clinician" (who you can't choose) will remain the same.

At one point - long after you've been forced into treatment - there is a judicial hearing to determine whether to continue it, but you don't even have a right to be present if the judge thinks it's "not in your best interest."

Yes there are numerous gestures and lipservice paid towards patient rights and safeguards, but in the end most of it is obvious windowdressing. And what it amounts to is, if you get stuck with a doctor who is willing to periodically fill out a form on you, it doesn't look like there's much chance you could successfully fight it.

And the irony is, this law is so obscenely coercive that even though you're not under the Mental Health Act at this point, it's still being successfully used by your doctor as a sledgehammer to force you to be injected with powerful drugs you don't want and don't think you need. Without him even having to fill out a damn form.

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I'm not trying to scare you...I'm just fuming. I'm concerned for you in the situation you're describing on many levels. I do think you need help. But by "help" I absolutely do not mean forcing drugs into you that you don't want. I can't imagine how that could help. I think the only psychiatric treatment that actually makes a positive difference is one where you're supported and respected and advocated for and listened to. Meds can improve symptoms sometimes, but they're not nearly as effective as those other things. I've been lucky to have all that, and yes, it has helped me enormously.

Thanks for your replies guys. Especially angelina... that was very informative.

It's a long story how I ended up here. I could write a book if I wasn't so dunce at English.

I was working fulltime had my own home gf cat dog playing rugby golf fishing all the normal things that people do. It all ended one night, Nov 2001, when I was at a feeezing works do at the pub and while leaving with a workmate an undercover cop pulled up just as the workmate I was with was having a leak. As the cop was about to arrest him I quickly thought if I have one too he might not get arrested so I went over to the wall and had one. Well the two of them nearly ended up having a scrap and the pepper spray came out. The cop had already sprayed my workmate who was covering his eyes couldn't see and had his hands up protecting himself so I tried to grab the cop by his arm and stop him but he still managed to spray him again and arrested him putting him in the car. When he got arrested his hat came off so I picked it up and tried to give it to him in the back of the car but unbeknown to me another cop had turned up and grabbed me from behind ripping my shirt and putting me in the other police car. I was yelling abuse at the cop under the belief that they cannot arrest unless they have informed you why. When we got to the police station and I was walking down the hallway to the cells the cop in uniform was trying to trip my feet up but I managed to stay on my feet but when we got around the corner I got battoned(i.e. having the batton on my chin and tring to pull me backwards to the ground). I resisted the cop and was quite strong at the time so just stood there making him look like an idiot. Next thing I knew I woke up from being unconcious with one cop under me and two ontop of me. I don't even know what happened. My life had ended.

Since that second at lot of things changed for me where I could no longer live my life. My workmate hated me since that time and probably thinks I made the situation which may be true and was under the belief for a long time that the police had continued to target him. I could no longer work because ever since that second I have struggled with extreme fatique. I tried hard to for about a year with many days off but I could not keep it up. I had also become very angry which may be understandable being unable to work but that like the fatigue, like the apathy are common traits of brain injury and I have been knocked out numerous times in fights accidents etc. How was I to live a life if I could no longer work, I always took pride in being a hard worker? So I would sit there at home and blast my radio. This is when all the strange stuff started happening and my belief that the world was flat had suddenly changed.

Here's a quick list of some of the things that took place,

My cat got wacked over her back and was hiding up in my roof so I had to give her away for her own safety and I loved my cat who was my main support through the start of this.

I spent about a year with no benefit or savings because I was terrified of the GP and even still will not go to one even though mental health has tried to push me into having one in the past. I survived through my ex supporting me and picking butts up off the streets at night to support my smoking addiction.

My gf got raped coming back from the pub so we split.

Two friends of mine(an elderly couple) were viciously knifed to death a couple of blocks away slashed over twenty times.

People who said they were in gangs came around to my home and did a home invasion on me. Again I was beaten up where I may have been lucky cause they told me to get my gun and one of them was sitting with his hands in black jacket like he had one while as the other was smashing me in the head about ten times trying to knock me out but never did and smashing the stuff in my lounge up. Luckily I managed to escape.

It was around this time I came under the belief that radio stations were targeting me and all this stuff that was suddenly happening like the murders that were taking place was happening because of it.

I had to leave the town I was living and working in for my own safety and for the safety of others so I left and went back to live in my hometown and put my house on the market which sold for twice what I had brought it for.

It didn't end though I am kinda related to people who actually are in a gang and they did a driveby shooting with two car load full of people. They didn't kill the opposing gang member they were trying to but killed a little baby girl. This one is definetly the worst I have seen.

A girl I had gone to a small churchschool with when I was a child got smashed over the head by someone from the town I had moved away from and was killed.

Again murders were everywhere ... all around me ... everyone is crazy and I'm not going to be an ignorant as to why.

Then everyone decided they suddenly wanted to kill themselves. When I moved back to my hometown I was hanging around with about 4 people. In space of a two week period 2 them were dead from suicide one from pills and the other by filling his gumboots with broken pieces of concrette and jumping into the noose breaking his neck who died in my uncles arms after he tried to save him by cutting him down. During that month about 13 people in the town had killed themselves. I can't remember but exactly the number but it was enough to make it into the newspaper. It was enough for the families of the dead to get together yearly reunions to remember their loved ones. For good reasons I no longer have friends.

I could go on and on and on but yeah partway through all this I wanted it to stop so I hit it up in a place on the internet. The forum got shut down, I had to go to court yet again but at least it wasn't for having a leak and hence I ended up in the mental health system where the problem is not in society but in my head.

btw... I'm not on anti-depressants but the resperidone injection, and anti-psychotic, which may be described more about sedation of a person then helping them in any other way. Getting sedated while your biggest problem that has stopped you living, fatique, is NOT very helpful, pleasent or nice.

That is plaincothes* policeman not undercover.... I made a mistake there like all those words I missed out.

Oh yeah... if it wasn't for the fatique that I suffer I would've taken the first plane out of here and never come back but as it is I'm pretty much stuck in hell and getting tortured and worth nothing. That is one less terrorist you all have to worry about huh.

Is this delusional or is it real? Cause these things I write down are real... they are all dead! It isn't my fantasy but real life happenings. Do these doctors KNOW that I am schizophrenic or are they simply trying to take the easy option out of this and place the problem in my brain and say that it is normal and say it happens to everyone when this crap does NOT happen to everyone. Just cause someone forms an OPINION on real life events at a time when half of America is crying like a five year old child that every1 is fing terrorist does not mean I am a schizophrenic. IF I were then the pills would have made at some sort of change to my thinking but as in with someone who believes in God the pills will NOT make a difference baecause the problem is not in MY HEAD but in the world around me that cave men do not understand or take the time to look at because they would rather live in the saftey of their caves that their books told them was true.

Rattatat wrote:Is this delusional or is it real?

What's "real" is that you seem confused. Pills can limit your brainfunction much the same way as blinders help a racehorse stay focused. Trick is to find the right blinders that only block the stuff that distracts you from your life. Otherwise you're stuck with meds...

Ian Reynir wrote:

Rattatat wrote:Is this delusional or is it real?

What's "real" is that you seem confused. Pills can limit your brainfunction much the same way as blinders help a racehorse stay focused. Trick is to find the right blinders that only block the stuff that distracts you from your life. Otherwise you're stuck with meds...

You don't get it cause you were not there. Pills do NOT change the way I think because it isn't a delusion in my head. They are DEAD! This is real and factual not some made up fantasy so opinions are never going to change because it isn't a mental illness BUT an OPINION on just why those things happened just the same way pills would not adjust your thinking if you were to conduct a science experiment. You will still come to EXACTLY the same conclusions. There is no fault in my brain to be fixed.

Rattatat wrote:There is no fault in my brain to be fixed.

I never said that there was, only that medications limit brain function and that confusion can result from distractions that can be controlled by anyone who learns how. Nowhere did I say that there is a brain malfunction. So what is there to fix? Btw, you seem very defensive, I think you may not realize I didn't disagree with you earlier...

Well you were explaining to me how pills work as though that is the effect it is going to have on me. So why explain it if there is no fault in my brain? I had come to the conclusion that you were under the impression that I am schizophrenic like angelina's 5 min diagnosis. Besides I think it is a bad example I am not even on pills but the resperidone injection which is probably a lot harder than the average pills. If a horse wears blinkers they can still see clearly straight ahead but when a person takes pills it limits all your functions.... with a chance of voices, delusions, hallucinations falling under the parts executed and deleted along with it. If there is no error or the error is too 'deep' then the pills will have little effect. This is not fact that I know but what I have come to in my own conclusions.

So in effect nothing has changed in my life or my thinking, apart from having less of a brain and suffering from the side-effects from the meds. Mental health because this doc does not take the time to make an accurate diagnosis over his five minute thoughts that pop into his head is only making my life a lot harder and miserable and costing the tax payers a lot of money. Why does he feel the need to waste other people's money to make my life worse when other people out there could possibly benefit from the meds that get nothing. Sometimes the system and the systematical puppets within it really suck.